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United States
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I know it is hard of a scan in person the coin has some original luster with perimeter toning on the obverse forming almost a bulls eye and the reverse is toned a purple and brown color with some hues of blue and green across the whole surface the reverse still has almost complete luster See how you grade it and if you have an up to date Krause could you give a price range Thank you Image: coins-Norway-12 skilling-1873.jpg19.76 KB Image: coins-Norway-12 skilling-1873 001.jpg22.95 KB Image: 922386[1].jpg24.15 KB Edited by scoutjim99 03/21/2007 02:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I hope these pics are clear Image Insert: Image Insert:
Edited by scoutjim99 03/20/2007 11:27 pm
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Luxembourg
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I guess you can call it AU. Do you see some wear on the cheek or ear or has only the luster disappeared? This makes to me the difference between XF and AU. The difference is sometimes difficult to tell: you generally notice by holding it at different angles into the light.
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I notice a slight bit of wear, and that is what makes it difficult for me to Grade You are close to what I would grade it. Sure I would call what you described as finding the Cartwheel. it lacks some on the obverse but the reverse has the Luster
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Luxembourg
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In general the lack of luster and the first appearance of wear are easier to detect on large high points like the cheek than on small details like a coat of arms. That's the reason why I focus mainly on one side to decide the grade I want to give.
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Jim, I hope you don't mind, but I had to try to enlarge the pics. My 40+ year old eyes can't grade from small pics anymore...  If you scan your images at 600 d.p.i., crop them down to the coin to eliminate as much background as possible, and resize them to 96 d.p.i., you can end up with larger images that would still be within the forum software limits. 384x384 pixels is a good size for grading. Also remember to only use letters, numbers, dashes, and underscores in your file names. Spaces and other characters will not be recognized properly by the software. Here is what I came up with. They are only 288x288 pixels because they started to look pixelated in larger sizes.  I believe I see some slight wear on the top of the portrait and on the lion and some of the leaves. I'd call it AU50 since you said there is still luster remaining. It may go higher, but I can't be sure without larger pics. Sorry.
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Sorry, I got so into getting the pictures larger that I forgot to give you the current Krause values. This is from the 4th Edition published in 2004. I don't know if there is a more recent edition out yet.
It's KM#339 weighing 2.89 g. It's .0875% silver for an ASW of .813 oz.
VG-$15.00 F-$25.00 VF-50.00 XF-$100.00 UNC-$200.00
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you everyone for all your help
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Susan for blowing up the picture!!!
Edited by scoutjim99 03/22/2007 03:29 am
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Does any one else have an opinion on this one. Are there grading books on world coins that teach you how to grade the coins like the Us Red Book, etc.
Edited by scoutjim99 04/27/2007 3:51 pm
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Australia
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I'd say EF. But really you cant say in from such poor scans.
European grading is a lot tougher than US grading. Here's a quote from the 2006 Spinks 'Coins of England
'In reality a British EF is a very fine coin, equating to an a true American MS-63 or so, and far better than an American AU, let alone an American EF'
I'd say it's largely the same here in Australia, with most educated collectors grading PCGS / NGC slabbed Aussie coins that are AU as EF or VF.
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting info Thanks Mark
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United States
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Here in America, as a buyer I'd think it was XF-45, and a dealer would have it classed as AU-58. Somewhere between those two, I should say.
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Thank you for all of the replies
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