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Mint Error 1987 Nickle That Looks Like Copper

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Any one know about these batch errors .or mixing errors I guess...I was told before this happen almost every year and certain collectors have them I guess from the early 80's onwards ......

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 Posted 10/16/2012  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the ones I saw, yours look like environment damage - there are too many "shiny" points that resemble nickel. The copper-rich coins are of an uniform color.

See article published on the RCNA journal a couple of months ago.
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t y those spots are just the light , in hand this coin is totally copper colored .. I brought it to ICCS and he said we dont grade those errors?
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If you send it to me, I can analyze it for you with the XRF in my lab (non-destructive). I wrote a paper on these "brown nickels" earlier this year in the Canadian Numismatic Journal, they turn brown due to elevated copper content.

If it is a mixing error, I can provide a report - Louis Chevier of CCCS will then slab the coin, with the copper-nickel content (in %) on the comments. Louis accepts analytical reports coming from me, and I even occasionally analyze coins for him as well.

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I bought one of ASYN about six months ago and returned it right away as you could still see nickel spots on it when it was in hand.
I am not suggesting yours is one of these artdio.
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SPP email me your address and I will send you the coin.... its just sitting in a 2 x 2 wondering why its alone hahaha
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SPP can surely help you out with this one!
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Use the message system here - you can send me a note. Right now I am making lunches for the kids tomorrow, so not anywhere near my coin computer...
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Here is an update. This coin is an alloy mixing error, 79.7% Cu and 19.7% Ni. CCCS will certify these coins, providing I have analyzed them and can provide CCCS with the results. Good eye artdio!
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Thanks , and big thanks for checking it :) I knew it was a cool coin....
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Having a few of these set aside, is there anyone that has the years that these errors have been found in? Currently I think I have an '84, '86 and '87. None of them are in pristine shape but they are an anomaly which makes them interesting.
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It has literally taken years to get these acknowledged as errors. I have a bunch. Has been a battle to get the "old school" snow bank theory to go away. artdio, this one will fit well with the hoard I have.
SPP was instrumental in both interest and the equipment/skill to get this published....hell, he even wrote the paper. The alloy mixing error paper is just another fine example of evolution of our hobby. I was able to get the first batch certified as they are...alloy errors in CCCS hard holders noting the alloy numbers. I then gave SPP one of the "test" coins in a hard slab as a thank you for his efforts. A thank you for his fine work. It truly is wonderful to be able to call him a friend! (hard to get near him due to his body guard tho......) MM
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RogerD, we have really only analyzed a small population (less than 20 coins, only two 1987 coins have been tested)... send me a PM if you are interested in having your coins analyzed. The analysis is free - the catch is that I get to use/publish the data.
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Mikey, you can butter me up all you want.... but you still owe me a fishing trip!!
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in 2 weeks come here, we get some horses!!! Dress warm tho!
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Ok what ya fishing for Steelies ? .... ..Oh and a big thanks to Roger for testing this ...Thumbs up all the way... I will check the others as I am sure somewhere in my bucket of nickles I seen a few others
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