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Inscriptions 10 Decimons And 20 Grammons On Old 8 Reales

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It is common to see the values 10Ds and 20Gs on the old Spanish American colonial 8R. Can anybody know how to calculate the finess of silver by these values.

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 Posted 10/17/2012  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So 12 Deneros is considered 100% fineness, this goes back to a very old method of measuring purity. 24 Granos equals 1 Deneros.

So 10D 20G = 10 20/24D -or - 0.9027 Fine.

(20/24G) + 10D = 10.833D
10.833D / 12D = .90275

This is how you measure the finess of the coin.

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 Posted 10/17/2012  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, Granos and Gramos are different.
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Thankyou Namachieli for the explanation.

and isn't that a beautiful coin, as well as a piece of history !
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Thank you so much, Namachieli, I get it now!
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 Posted 10/19/2012  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad I can help. This one drove me crazy till I figured it out.

I learned how 24 Granos was 100% of a D and thought, hmm same as Carats and gold.

Tried D as 24 out of 24. Whoa. that cant be right. Hmm seems like its half what it should be.

Tried 12.. Oh that looks right. Cool!
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Frankly speaking, not many Hong Kong/China numismatists do not know such common knowledge so I will publicise my knowlegde learned here to my nation's coins' collectors.

I think in such olden days, silver coins are used as a medium within and also internationally, a clear assertion to the finess of the coin will help people to trade. When the coinage of old "Cap and Ray", the new Mexican peso also showed the finess of silver but more explicitly, "902.7". Other countries showed the similar figures on their coins, e.g.

Argentina 9 Dos Fino (?902 finess) ?Dos=2
Bolivia 9. D. Fino (?902)
Peru 9 Dedimos Fino
Ecaudor Lei 0.900
Colombia Lei 0.90
Panama Ley 0.900
EL Salvrdor 900 Cam
Hondurus 0.900
Guatemala still used old system 10D 20G

All above are the past colonies of Spain, this did not happen on their coins for other countries such as Brazil, British Hondurus and etc.

So it is very interesting when we like to study more deeply by our old coins.

Thank you sharing your experience and knowledge again, Namachieli.
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