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Poll Question
I've been collecting Canadian quite a while and, without ever consciously realizing it, I've noticed that I clearly recognize a 2x2 graded by Bob Armstrong. Many consider his grading in such a flip as good as a TPG. What are your thoughts? QUESTION: Do you recognize Bob Armstrong 2x2 flips?
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There are 3 dealers that I know of who have perfected the BA look. Sorry, just another example of people trying to let "Other People" do the work. Grade yourself. Trust only yourself. BUY THE COIN NOT THE HOLDER!!!!
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New Member
Canada
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IMO, he is beyond any question. I take his grades any day over either Canadian TPGperhaps NickelsGuy is of a similar opinion?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree that BA grades well. IF HE HANDS ME THE 2x2. Not in another persons hands tho. To accept a flip as gospel is just silly!!!
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What an excellent point. My not-so-devious-mind didn't even consider that people would forge the style. Just for clarification, the question is do you recognize BA flips when you see them somewhere, not do you recognize them as equivalent to TPG flips.
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 Bob does a great job in grading and many years ago was one of the four graders for I.C.C.S. His hand writing is well known throughout the Hobby, perhaps it should be made copyright?  Glenn 
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I don't know of any other dealer I would trust more in terms of grading accuracy and a high degree of ethics.
With that being said, I still wouldn't buy his coins in his 2x2's sight unseen.
All dealers, whether or not good graders or not have their strong and weak areas in grading.
I prefer to look the coin over first.
In regards to other dealers imitating Bob's 2x2's, I haven't seen any that would fool me.
Bob's handwriting is very distinctive and I would think, very easy to positively identify.
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Sean Isaacs (Alliance Coin in Almonte), has a similar style to Bob Armstrong to labelling 2x2 flips.
I recognize my own handwriting on some flips in coin stores and shows - I like seeing that. If dealers had issues with the grades, they would remove the coin from the flip.
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It would be interesting to see one of Sean's to compare (I couldn't find him on ebay anymore). Here's the one that got me thinking of this... just picked it up at the last coin club meeting. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Bob's 2x2.
Edited by doubleeagle59 10/18/2012 3:23 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Quote: Grade yourself. Trust only yourself. Excellent advise. 
Edited by SHAFTA9a 10/18/2012 4:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, mine is definitely Bob's, as is glenzy's. I am lucky to have collected autographs for many years and worked for a bank verifying account holder's signatures on cheques.
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I'm sorry but those two examples are as different as apple pie to cabbage rolls.
How do they even remotely look alike?
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Pillar of the Community
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The first two must be Sean's and that last one is Bob's... very distinctive. Obviously not fool proof though and forgeries are possible.
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I must clarify my point. It currently is, and never was, Sean Isaacs' intent to fool anyone. I had stated earlier that the style (e.g., location of date, grade and denomination) were similar... Sean had spent a lot of time interacting and learning the finer tips of grading with Bob Armstrong, many years ago.
From my perspective, it was merely an observation...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa 10/18/2012 8:20 pm
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