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 Posted 10/19/2012  12:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good Morning!
Here are pics. The obverse:

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The eye spike with multiple die chips:
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The reverse:
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 Posted 10/19/2012  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here is the reverse close-up. I do not see die polishing lines.
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I also compared it to the 1878-s Vam-1D and it does not match that one as far as the diagonal die scratches.
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 Posted 10/19/2012  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kellyk,

I assume this is the spike you're referring to?


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I also need you to confirm that the 'r' in Trust is broken and also the 4th right star. I can't access VAMWorld from work and right after work tonight I'm off to Indiana. If no one has figured this out, I'll give it a shot Sunday night.

p.s. - I used your picture and adjusted the color saturation and enhanced the contrast a bit.
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 Posted 10/19/2012  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually it looks like a black dot below your arrow, a little below eyelid. It has broken star and broken r. The obverse looks just like the VAM 73. I have lots of die chips on mine but they do not show up on the photo so much. The reverse looks like the 73 reverse but without the diagnostic die scratch.
How did you add the arrow?
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 Posted 10/19/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
How did you add the arrow?


Now you want all my trade secrets?

I use a program in Windows called "Paint" (I use Powerpoint to add text). Just open the picture in paint and play with the tools on the top of the screen. Always save with a different file name so you don't overwrite the original.

Here's a screenshot of the program ...



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 Posted 10/21/2012  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin has been in circulation and has some wear. I've been reading about die polishing and it seems the "diagonal die polishing lines" would be raised. With the amount of wear on this reverse ( pictured above), would the polishing lines have been worn off?
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 Posted 11/05/2012  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
isn't that a VAM 5,7 or 46 reverse die ? its not the VAM 73. that has two spikes under eyelid and reverse has the gouges in tailfeathers as the VAM 1D. I do not see that on your coin. is the 4th rt star full (not broken ? )
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 Posted 11/07/2012  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin has a broken r and a broken 4th star. The one picture of the obverse of VAM 73 (on VAM World) has the same short spike on the eye as my coin (which must be hard to see on above picture). But it does not have the gouges on the reverse. Is there more info on the VAM 73 other than what is on VAM World?
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 Posted 11/07/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the picture with a line close to the spike:

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 Posted 11/07/2012  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The short spike is the black dot "at 2 o'clock from the end of the line" or just above the end of the line. Now I'll see if I can go to VAM World to post their picture of VAM 73 eye...
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 Posted 11/07/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From VAM World
1878-S VAM-73 Doubled Eyelid with Spike, Lines in Tail Feathers
Discovered by Calvin Cherry, July 2002.

73 II 30 · B2a (Doubled Eyelid with Spike, Lines in Tail Feathers) (185) I-2 R-5
Obverse II 30â€" Eyelid doubled below front with short spike from front of eye below doubling.
Reverse B2aâ€" Diagonal die polishing lines in eagle's tail feathers of VAM 1D.

It is the little, very sharp, spike that divides this VAM from the VAM 1D.


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 Posted 11/08/2012  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll try to make my original photo oy eye larger so that you might see what I see...

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If this doesn't show clearly, I surrender! The coin is back in my safe deposit box and I'll enjoy it without knowing which VAM it is!!
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 Posted 11/08/2012  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
try VAM 5 on VAM World. The VAM 73 obverse die was also used on the VAM 107. Which is a rare coin. Try that one. But VW doesn't have good pix for the 107.
If you had a good shot of the eagles right lower wing feathers where they meet the leg. It would be a big help as most of the 1878-S coins had an engraved wing feather. You have a broken R and star. a shot of engraved wing feather will tell the rest of the story.
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 Posted 12/02/2012  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Morganhead. I believe it is the VAM 5. My coin does have the broken star which the VAM 5 did not have. Does this have any significance?
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 Posted 12/04/2012  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kelly, I think if the reverse is a match, it can only be the VAM 5, VAM 7, or VAM 46/46a. This reverse die was used for all three of these VAMs. VAM 5 has an unbroken star and broken R in trust.doesn't sound like yours. Broken star and R, it's a VAM 7 or 46. The 46 has a worm eye or gouge, cant miss it once you know where to look. It does sound like a VAM 7 though. Good hunting !
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 Posted 12/04/2012  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scratch that Kelly. I saw the worm eye on your first photo. Its a VAM 46. The 46 also has a variation with a die break on reverse. The left side of the wreath , next to the N in United. Check pix on VW to sort it out.
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