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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi guys, Just stumbled across this fourm whislt trying to find infomation on clipped coins. I have just come across a 2011 Olympic (cycling) 50p coin. I'm guessing it is pretty rare being olympic? Where would I be best to get a rough value on this? I'm not a coin collector, and have no idea about them, so do not want to be ripped off, it is worth more than face value.  Thank you for your time. |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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The pic is very fuzzy, but it isn't that difficult to get some implement and do this, ie, it's worth 49p seeing as not all of it is there (not really).
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Hi,
I will try get a better picture. It looks perfect, like its always been like it.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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xhale 2007: Welcome to the CCF!
I have a dodecagonal Australian 50 Cents with an angular clip, but this example is more spectacular. The clip line on the Oz. coin changes direction.
Unfortunately, from the picture I cannot tell if this coin was clipped before or after it left LLanstrisant. Mostly, but not always, a Bleakesley effect is present with clipped planchets. My Oz 50 Cent coin does not show this effect but a small 5P coin from LLanstrisant, that I have, does.
My guess for a market value for your heptagonal 50 P'er would be around 30 to 50 pounds.
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United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I have a few clipped coins, including a 1971 2p. Here are some photos to show you what to look for. Overall view:   The clip is by the "CE" of pence. You will see a weakening of the edge almost directly opposite, just below the "N" of "NEW". This is the Blakesley effect.  Not all my clipped coins have this effect, and those that do are not all as clear as this. What they DO all have is a slight weakening of the design just by the clip. For example, see this photo:  You will notice that the edge dots just before the clip lose some definition. I think this is caused by the metal not flowing completely into the die when it is struck. On a complete flan the metal presses fully into the die giving perfect definition. Here there is a gap to the side, and the metal flows slightly into the hole instead of fully filling the die. Some Forum experts might be able to describe this better than I can. I suppose it might be possible to forge a clipped coin after minting by using some croppers. But cropping the coin would not produce the Blakesley effect, nor would it cause the slight loss of definition seen in the close-up. These two effects show this coin was clipped during minting. Does your 50p show either of these effects? |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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I don't have the coin to hand now. But from the second pictures I posted. The top picture looks like the lip on the edge is lower.
I will take a better look in the morning and report back
The coin does have a cured piece missing, which all other ones seem to.
I have no clue about fake coins etc, but after looking closely at the coin I fail to see how you could possibly fake it. Without a sign on bending/markings?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I think it's possible to fake.
There was a discussion about it in the Australian forums not long ago: you could cut/file the coin, smooth the wound and use a small hammer to apply some other features.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Just looked at the coin and on the opposing side, the rim is thinner than the rest of the coin. It can still just be caught with my nail, but not like the rest of it.
So I would say it is showing signs of the blakeley effect I read about above.
What would this be worth? I'm assuming a coin with only around 1 million circulation and having an error like this its pretty rare? Being an Olympic coin must also make a difference?
Thanks for the advice
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Check for fish-tailing on the letters too. It's hard to tell from the photos but the D may be fish-tailed.
Maybe check on ebay/similar sites and see what other British clipped planchets are going for.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Yes, just looked and the edge of the d does appear to get thinner towards the edge. Ive looked on ebay. doesn't appear to be any 50p coins with errors. Especially the limited edition olympic ones. doesn't even appear to be any clipped coins from within the uk. A few from australia, but looks dodgy to me lol |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Just looked into this a bit, found in sold items a standard non olympic 50p, with a slight piece missing, much smaller than this. It sold for £10 plus postage. Then there is a swimming olympic coin, which got withdrawn, but they claimed the last misprinted olympic swimimng coin sold for £400, I couldnt verify this however.
So not really any wiser :/
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Is my best option with this to put it on ebay at 99p and see what happens? |
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United Kingdom
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@xhale2007
Probably yes.
I know what I would be prepared to pay for a genuine 50p error coin, but don't know what the market will stand.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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What would you pay? Am I right to sy its very rare, being an Olympic one? Can't find anything similar
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