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Hey folks! I'm not much on VAMs, but it's pretty clear this one ought to be easy to identify. I spent quite some time the other day on vamworld with no success. Seems like with all of the die cracks (this is at least middle die state, right?) it ought to be a simple and fun one for you experts.   I surely appreciate your help! |
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Die cracks on the 21-D dies are like fingerprints. I can't access the die break guide from VAMWorld from work but here's the link ... http://www.vamworld.com/21-D+D...k+Guide Note the die crack on the obverse from the neck point to the rim (just below the first left star). Find a similar crack on the guide and go from there. |
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Yeah, that's what I tried to do the other night for an hour or two. They don't add up, that I can see. Thanks for the tip, though!
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Alright, I thought this was going to be a fun one for the experienced VAMmers to nail quickly, but I guess they're not into it. I know from doing Cents I jump at the chance every time.
Going over my notes from the other night, this is a lot like a 1H but that the crack from the neck is all wrong.
The crack from the base of the bust is a lot like a 1O but the rest is wrong.
I can't imagine there's such a thing as a hybrid combination, but that's why I'm asking.
Again, thanks for your help!
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Scropper,
Over the years here I've learned many things ... patience being one of the most important. Folks here are very giving and get stretched occasionally. They'll get to it when they can.
I was going to give it a look last night but was called away when my 2 1/2 yr old grandson went to the emergency room with severe abdominal pain. Everything turned out all right, but I didn't get to look at this from home.
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I  'd on this one for a while. It's not an EDS of anything notable, and doesn't appear in the Die Crack Guide. Time to go over them all, one by one.
Here's the keys: The rim-to-neck crack next to the first left star; the curved cracks at left stars 4-6; curved cracks either side of the "A" in "STATES." Those are the ones which will stand out as different from the majority, and if you see a coin with all 3, you can call it conclusive.No, I couldn't leave it like this. I just went through every single 1921-D at VAMworld, and came up empty-handed. These are distinctive cracks, though, and chances are someone over there has seen them. |
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Oh, I wasn't trying to be pushy! I'm just trying to point out that this might be a more interesting (and fun) challenge than it seems at first glance. Yes, patience is absolutely crucial in all parts of coin collecting. I wanted to add, it's not a 1V, and it's not a 2B - I'd looked at those two the other night and just did so again with the coin in hand. It's a strange grouping of all of them. Which is bizarre - it's not that some cracks are more pronounced (later state) than others, it's that it's some strange combination of them, because there are aspects of each shown here. Also distinctive is the RIBUS rim Cud. I also have a 22 that has a nice clean die break straight through Liberty's neck that I haven't been able to figure out. I've actually seen the coin on VAMworld, but it was not attributed! Ah, the joys... And SeatedNut, I appreciate your time especially if and when you're able to get around to it. I hope your family is well! SuperDave, seeing you virtually pound your head against the wall is somewhat relieving, so thank you for that! That's how I've felt through much of this - DEFINITELY not because of anything in this thread, just because I figured it'd be a snap to attribute. Again, I sure appreciate all of your help. Edited by Scropper
10/26/2012 1:47 pm
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Not that I can help, but a quick word of advice. When I first started collecting, I was really into VAMMING, so much I couldnt stop looking at all the different types and kinds. Eventually, it took too much out of me, searching for hours at a time, small microscope cameras etc... Just dont let it take away the fun from coin collecting in general, unless of course, all you do is look for VAMS. It just got too frustrating, but if its your thing then best of luck!
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And SeatedNut, I appreciate your time especially if and when you're able to get around to it. I hope your family is well! Thanks Scropper ... it was dicey last night. They did an MRI and ruled out intestinal blockage. They hooked him up on an IV due to the dehydration (poor little guy didn't have a tear left in him). They held him overnight with the plan to do an appendectomy this morning if he didn't improve. Fortunately he made a significant recovery during the night and was released today at noon. I'm heading over after work tonight with some helium balloons and other assorted goodies for him ... probably won't get a look at it tonite either. You do have the maestro hooked on it now, though ... GO SsuperDdave!  |
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That's great news, SeatedNut!
TonedMo87, I don't have much interest in VAMS, I just noticed this one should be quite easy (or so I thought). I love attributing large cents, so it's pretty much the same thing for me, but that early copper is my first love.
Of course, as all things, the more I learn, the more I get sucked in...
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Posted 10/24/2012 10:53 am
