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Restrike Maria Theresa Thalers Some Corrections

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 Posted 07/11/2015  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply. I was impressed with the M. Theresa because of its beauty and size. That is one big silver coin. I did not directly compare it to a Morgan or a Peace dollar. "Coins" had a good article about the "Big Seven" Silver coins. I have three of the big seven in complete sets but not in mint condition by far. I would like to know more about the M. Theresa and I appreciate the references.

John
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 Posted 07/11/2015  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thought I'd share and get austrokiwi and everyones opinion. I pocked it up at a pawn shop for $10 a year ago. Don't collect them but could pass up the price so why not. I think, if I remember correctly and attributed it correctly, that I classified it as one of the more common variety restrikes? but it's in great shape and I liked the holder.

Thanks for your thoughts guys & great read on this thread! I may just have to start picking them up what I run across them


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 Posted 07/11/2015  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A very modern MTT restrike type. Most likely to be a 60s specimen. I would say it is H60 or H61a.
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 Posted 07/12/2015  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As Henry says its a modern re strike. The edge would be a confirmation of the date...a blurred edge would place the coin post 1960. That packaging has always intrigued me. I believe it dates to the late 1960s and 1970s.

Note Hafner 60 and 61 are more akin to type designations that a variety identification
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 Posted 07/12/2015  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for confirming modern restrike guys. Not what I'm into but for the money I could pass it up.
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 Posted 07/16/2015  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks just like the coin I paid $20 for including the dark toning around the edge of the coin if I am seeing it right. You got a great deal for ten bucks. I saw some other very large silver coins today, but all more expensive than the M. Theresa. I understand you can get the coin in Unc. for small premium over silver price if you get the modern restrikes. Cascade seems to have gotten his coin at a major discount. Where do you live and where is that pawn shop, heh, heh. I got me three Unc. Morgans today and it cost a lot more than the thaler. Those big silver coins really attract me. I can afford them, and they are still a precious metal. If I bought a gold coin that large I would have to take out a mortgage. I never thought about collecting foreign coins but those big silver ones may change my mind. I am collecting Liberty Standing quarters and I am just stumped with the scarcity of good ones, so I am sliding over to Morgans for a while.
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 Posted 07/17/2017  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MTTFan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I am going to try this. I am brand new to this forum but not to MTT. I have seen reference to austrokiwi's paper on 20th Century MTT and wondered where I could get a copy of that. Trying to build that necessary reference library. Also later I will be referencing a couple of unusual MTT fakes for comment. Look forward to the comments!
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 Posted 07/18/2017  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pm me your email address

Also look at my articles in the numismatist:

December 2014
January 2016

and for a prequel to the MTT the July 2017 edition... article titled "Bubble and bust, 5 sols in the 17th Century)

There is also an article that offers definitions of "original", "early re-strike" and "modern Re-strike" in the NI bulletin ( NUmismatics International) Volume 50 nos. 5/6 May/JUne 2015
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Unfortunately, as a new member to the forum, it will not allow me to use the email feature. It thinks I want to spam. Austrokiwi, can you send me the email to which I can then respond? Many thanks!
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 Posted 07/18/2017  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just tried to PM you but seems the default setting of you blocks me messaging you. I am not sure if that is also related to you being new
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Sorry. Just figuring out how the forum works. Have changed to allow emails. Thanks!
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 Posted 07/19/2017  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MTTFan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings! For those searching for the 2003-04 error where Clementia is upside down in relation to Justitia, note that the coin can sometimes be found in the older, vertical, folder issued by the Austrian Mint. See image following. However, not all coins in the folder are the error coins.

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 Posted 03/27/2018  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Svenofthenorth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There appear to be so many varieties of the Theresia Talers and many different opinions. I have been collecting MTTs dated between 1741 and 1779, but apart from Davenports inclusion in the European Talers publication, there isn't a lot more detailed literature available.
I am waiting with eagerness for austrokiwi to write a book on this coin, his expertise is enviable. Like MTT I am unable to contact him directly to find out about the progress of the book and to reserve a first edition :)
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 Posted 06/30/2018  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Svenofthenorth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know if the long awaited book on Maria Theresia Talers by @austrokiwi is available for purchase yet, and if so any ideas where. Thank you
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