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Pillar of the Community
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Noooo, it could have, or could've been. NOT could of
Are you some kind of English professor or something? I keep seeing you correct peoples vocabulary and wonder why this bothers you so much. You do realize that allot of people do not speak English as their first language and you will see ALLOT of this on forums such as this and online in general so it really shouldn't bother you so bad that you correct everyone that speaks broken English like this Believe me, most people who make this mistake are native-born English speakers. I see no problem with pointing out such mistakes, as long as it's done in a civil and friendly manner. Some people feel the need to speak up for the English language. BTW, "allot" is incorrect..."a lot" is correct. Edited by jpsned
10/29/2012 1:04 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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O-103 R-2 and is known for severe weakness in the center of the obv (obv is is buckling). I would still say the grade of VF is too high but I could possibly go with F-15, definitely with F-12. But CHOICE? No way. The severe cleaning/whizzing this coin has suffered would give it a net grade of maybe G-5. Quote:
But can someone tell me where the die break is. From below the end of the bust through the bottom of the date and continuing to the right through the outeer points of stars 13, 12, and to the rim by the outer point of star 11. Quote:
I thought you couldnt put a grade on a coin in description or title, if it hasnt been graded by a major thrid party company.. You can't have a NUMERICAL grade in the title or description unless it has been graded by one of the approved companies. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I am sure "ALLOT" of people would be able to find all kind of spelling errors in my posts but since I am not trying to pass a spelling test I would rather them keep it to themselves as long as I am on a coin forum and not a proper English forum
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Pillar of the Community
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So the obliteration of the left center of the bust is from a regular business strike with this die, huh? Well irregardless, there seems to be a lot of wear/cleaning as well.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bryan, no, I just detest the destruction of the English language. The poster that I corrected is from England I believe, so the presumption of English being his native language is a solid one. As mentioned, saying could of, would of, should of etc is NOT indicative of broken English. As pointed out, it is the completely incorrect phonetic spelling of the contraction could have, could've. Yes, I tend not to use ' and have said as much before. A bad habit of mine. It does not, however, invalidate my point in the least. And just because there are those here who do not speak English does not mean that those of that do should totally destroy it. Typos happen, that's no big deal. You will notice I don't go around pointing those out. As I am breaking no rules, not being rude, and what I point out is indeed true, not sure why it bothers you so.
conder pointed out the die break and covered the grade in title thing. I will add that if you look around the rim, you will see many striations radiating from the interior of the coin to the rim. Those are the flow marks I mentioned. This die was really on its last legs.
exo, I couldn't bring myself to pay that much. The whizzing just ate this coin up far too much for me to pay much more than I would for an AG coin. But that's just me.
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Pillar of the Community
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I sold the same variety, XFish, whizzed, to a dealer, earlier this year. He gave me $80 for it. The die break is what interested him. I've long experienced that such anomalies bring a premium.
Regarding the English issue, I taught school many years ago. On one level, it does bother me to see and make errors, myself. That said, IMHO, there's a much larger issue here. This is a collector forum, and we should all, methinks, do as much as we can to encourage and foster the hobby. Kindness, consideration, and not grammar should be the focus of the forum. There are times that we all need to "bite the lip" and address that larger issues. End of sermon ...
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Bedrock of the Community
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As I am breaking no rules, not being rude, and what I point out is indeed true, not sure why it bothers you so. In all honesty it does come off as rude to correct grammar on an internet message board about coins imo. As someone else pointed out some people post from their phones and other mobile devices at least some of the time and we all knew what he was saying. |
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Before this gets into a debate of sorts, let's keep it on the subject of the post.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
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I was going to point out that I've done professional editing work and still manage to overlook 99.9998% of all the errors and typos I see on this forum, but instead I thought we should have this. http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.c...rything.htmlMoving on, how can you tell this coin was whizzed, specifically? I'm not doubting the people here who know more than I do, I'm just wondering how it's obvious that it wasn't some other kind of disastrous PMD. I have a Victorian shilling with a beautiful reverse, but the obverse is worn down to a ghost (think "VG/F V nickel") and there are hack marks over Victoria's face. You'd never believe the obverse and reverse belonged to the same coin (I think the guy I bought it from actually took pictures that made the reverse look worse than it does in hand for exactly this reason). The coin we're discussing here looks like a similar case. Isn't it possible that it's some other form of PMD? Edited by ninamason
10/30/2012 03:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for that humorous link, ninamason! Quote:
how can you tell this coin was whizzed, specifically? Looking at the pic of the subject coin, there are numerous, fine lines, running parallel in an east-west direction. It may well be that this coin somehow got stained, discolored or had some ingredient once adhered to the obverse. For whatever reason, someone took an abrasive item and buffed the surface so hard as to pierce the previously well-worn surface. Notice that the whiz lines tend to more highly reflect the light, making them stand out from the otherwise worn surface area. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh boy, another early date bites the dust. The crack up is how the seller touts it as "Choice VF"!?!? In who's eyes?
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Pillar of the Community
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A simply worn coin does not have that glossy polished look that this one carries. I believe it was whizzed on the reverse as well so both sides look similar. I am guessing it was done on the obverse to remove some very bad scratches/gouges/graffiti that you can still see some remains of. But that's just a guess.
Having looked at this coin several times now, I will take back my statements on value. On further thought I would go as much as 60 or so. That crack really is impressive.
As for the English thing, I will respect Vermontesiums request and comment no further. But trust me, I do have plenty of comment left in me.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm wondering if the coin isn't a bit concave/convex, which might explain why the center detail is so close to being polished away on one side and remarkably intact on the other. Equal whizzing (or whatever) pressure on both sides would have a more pronounced effect on the side that bulges out.
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Pillar of the Community
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O-103 R-2 and is known for severe weakness in the center of the obv (obv is is buckling). steev, that's what conder was pointing out here. This was a die that was in final death throes and about to come flying apart. A lot going on here. |
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Sad. Just sad.
PS: *Facepalm*
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