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 Posted 10/28/2012  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am stunned I don't think I have seen a coin so whizzed before
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 Posted 10/28/2012  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How would it get so worn in the center of the obverse like that, unless it were bent or warped in some way?
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 Posted 10/28/2012  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never saw a bust half that I didn't love, but the whizzing makes this one a tough love. As for the worn obverse the early bust halfs were known for weak strikes. I usually see them on the left side of the reverse.

The die crack is awesome
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 Posted 10/28/2012  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's possible that this whizzing was intentionally done to remove graffiti or else environmental damage.

I'm technically okay with the seller's VF grade for this coin, but his use of the descriptive term "Choice" suggests some form of visual impairment on his part. "Scrubbed" is far more apropos. I'm surprised that the seller failed to make mention of the interesting die break; this, being a valid and interesting "selling point" for the coin.
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 Posted 10/28/2012  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dipped,wizzed call it what you like to call that VF is a joke.It could of been an honest coin.
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The UK's VF is a different standard of grading ... IMHO more stringent and akin to a USA XF. On this side of the pond, the VF grade has a twenty point spread, being the largest in the seventy point grading scale. I'd love to travel back to the UK and purchase all the "VF" USA coins I could!!

In this case, it does appear that the coin is "honest" or genuine. It's the seller's description that is at odds here. Eh, what?
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Cleaning like that is terrible to a coin like that. It is very obvious when you look at the picture.
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It could of been

Noooo, it could have, or could've been. NOT could of.
And it is whizzed, a high speed tool with a polishing tip was used on this coin. Dipping is something altogether different.

Regardless, VF IS too high a grade. F would work.

And I saw that die break too. MAN, thats wicked. Lot of flow marks too. This thing has a ton of character even with the whizzing. If he wasnt asking a ridiculous amount for this coin, I might go 20 bucks on it just due to the break and stuff.
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Noooo, it could have, or could've been. NOT could of

Are you some kind of English professor or something? I keep seeing you correct peoples vocabulary and wonder why this bothers you so much. You do realize that allot of people do not speak English as their first language and you will see ALLOT of this on forums such as this and online in general so it really shouldn't bother you so bad that you correct everyone that speaks broken English like this
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Well...technically..."could of" doesn't necessarily represent "broken English". Rather, it's a misinterpretation of what the contraction "could've" sounds like, phonetically. But your (Bryan1315) point is well taken. This isn't English 101, it's a coin forum.
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And many of us reply to these forums from our phones. I know my grammer is horrible when I am doing that.

But can someone tell me where the die break is. I am yet to be able to pick up on these without being shown. I am trying to train my eye on finding them.
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 Posted 10/29/2012  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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MAN, thats wicked.


Is there not an apostrophe needed for this contraction ... That is?

The die break on this 1810 is of a fairly common variety that's (that is) readily obtainable in the marketplace.

IMHO, the feathers and peripheral star detail do warrant a VF grade, yet I can well appreciate a net grade of VG for a coin such as this. My guess is that this coin would fetch around $60 in an open auction.
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I thought you couldnt put a grade on a coin in description or title, if it hasnt been graded by a major thrid party company..
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Welcome aboard, Nicscoin!

I see that many sellers do apply their grades in the title. Personally, I don't have a problem with that. Even the major TPG's have changed their grades at times, subjective as it can be. Ultimately, a meeting of minds on the price is what makes the sale.
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I thought you couldnt put a grade on a coin in description or title


Adjectival grades(Good, Very Good, Fine, etc) are fine, numerical grades(VF30, AU58, MS65, etc) are not allowed unless the coin is graded by a TPG.
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