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 Posted 08/20/2022  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coopertron5000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice haul, Princetane. That florin looks enormous!
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 Posted 08/20/2022  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice haul, Princetane. That florin looks enormous!


You got that right!
I love those little baby coins..... I feel like I am in the land of the giants

Thanks for showing.
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 Posted 08/20/2022  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And yet that florin was half the cost of any of the other coins and is over 100 years younger. Even the sixpence looks giant next to the tiddlers.

Its like putting Earth and Venus next to Jupiter!
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Got this today from my LCS - an 1848 penny (mintage 161,280).
Excellent!


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As you requested! The Florin looks HUGE in comparison... Looks like a line up of planets!
It sure does. Very nice!
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I see you have leapt into silverware very well

Just dipped a toe into the gold arena too...like an idiot
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 Posted 08/23/2022  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have gone crazy again in the past two weeks. I went back to the coin shop today and miracle of miracles, they actually kept the coin for me I put away back in May!

Here it is!

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It is the 1898 Halfcrown, the last one I am missing of the Old Head series and fills a gap in my collection. This is a triumph, no spacefiller just straight to the cream!


This coin is actually EF, it has a slight tone and unlike my other nice coins, does not appear to be cleaned.

I also brought a lot of other stuff, but this will be shown a bit later when its processed. Its mainly sixpences, groats and a few shillings. Mostly from the Victorian era (Is anyone surprised?).
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Very nice coin! Congrats!
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I went back to the coin shop today and miracle of miracles, they actually kept the coin for me I put away back in May... It is the 1898 Halfcrown, the last one I am missing of the Old Head series and fills a gap in my collection
Fantastic!
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Lovely Vicky OH halfcrown, Princetane!
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It is the 1898 Halfcrown, the last one I am missing of the Old Head series and fills a gap in my collection.


Very nice HC!
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Here are the others, besides the Australian and Fijian coins shown on the Australian acquisitions thread, I brought several groats and a threepence.

The first groat is a Maundy one from 1901. I got this as it was quite cheap and had "unique toning"


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I am always curious how loose Maundy coins are spent as this one is gVF and must have circulated some. It is well known that the late Victorian coins were commercially released and I think 1901 some 12,000 sets were put out. Being Victoria, its likely Edward handed these out as she died in January and Maundy is Easter Time.

The rest of my groats date from their period of use (1842 - 1855)

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1842 - Probably the best of all of them. This is nearly VF. I have noticed the effigy of Victoria is always a lot flatter on these coins than the tails side. I have found this with many of the smaller early head coins from Shillings downwards.


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1845 - More worn with a barely fine tails side (I still get reverse and obverse confused). These coins you notice are quite crudely made as well. The same size as a 3d, but thicker and with a milled edge. The Maundy 4d is actually larger.
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More Groats (Its hard to photograph these well and my phone is in its death throes dating back to early 2018, which is like 1700BC in phone years).

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1846 another barely fine coin - this one at least is a bit cleaner. The coins between 1848 and 1852 are more scarce. The last 2 years are more common.

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1854 - a better coin nearing VF, a bit cleaner too. It was the last big year of minting these coins (Nearly a million!)

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1855 - VG only and likely cleaned. This is a fairly scarce coin and the last date. There was a further groat in the 1860s, but this was a pattern and no groats circulated in the UK except the 1888 one off - but they took off in British Guiana being made into the 1950s.

Reasons for its demise may have been the re minting of threepence coins from the 1840s onwards. The 1830s and 1840s saw colonial mintings, but starting in 1843 coins were minted for the UK and by 1855 all Threepences were for local as well as colonial use.

Having 2 coins the same size was confusing too (Even though the 3d was a crowned 3 and the groat had Britannia) and the Groat disappeared. No doubt some people in the night pulled a fast one by paying a 3d coin and saying it was a 4d. The coin lasted just 19 years (Still 10 more than the 1½d which died a quick death in 1843)

Finally a worn (Fineish) threepence from 1905. I brought it as it cost just $3 (£1.57)

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It completes my 1905 coins set (Excluding gold of course)
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Decided to delve into Condor tokens a little while ago and started off with this 1789 Macclesfield Beehive provincial token, nothing to write home about but my first Conder token to go along with my Dalton & Hamer Book I got from Allan Davisson last week.

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I did purchase a few others as well just haven't taken good photos of them yet.

Hopefully this falls inside the British Empire "Second" British Empire (1783-1815) anyways.
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Nice Conder for your new collection, westcoin! You've now stepped through the portal -- or maybe it's a time warp -- to a field of collecting that can be endless in its complexities. There must be at least 80 types and varieties in Macclesfield alone, right? And that's not the only town in Cheshire that where Conders were struck, although Beeston and Chester don't even come close.

Dalton & Hamer have always fascinated me with some of the descriptions they provided, as in this case. Their take on the Rx image on this token is: "A female seated by a windlass from which a rope descends." Seems that "Industry seated left" would have covered it alright.

My D&H came from Allan Davisson also, but in 1990 when it was the first update and expansion of the 1910 original. Although my field is now the 19th century, after all these years I'm still bidding in Davisson's auctions when my kind of stuff shows up, as in the section of Dalton silver shillings at the end of their current Auction 44.

As for whether you should share Conders in this particular forum, I'll quote myself from a posting here about two weeks ago:

Tokens are people coins too!


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Thank You Daltonista! My D & H is the same as yours, the 1990 reprint. I figured since they were getting so hard to find now days, I would at least ask Allan directly and surprise he had just had one come in with a collection he purchased, so I asked him if he would include the additional pages he added in the 2nd reprint in 2004, he was able to find the pages in a folder and included them to make my copy as close to the last one he made as possible, I also asked him to personalize the book by signing it to me as well, I know that can make a book worth less then just the editor/author signature alone, but I like to have little mementos in my books as I find them. It's truly a great reprint and I have much to learn, as you may have seen from my byline here I joined the Conder Token Collectors Club last year and have been reading through the old journals as I can. Not hard really, since I don't have television and haven't since 2006. Thanks so much for your nice comments, are you a member of the CTCC or the Facebook and Google Groups groups? I found them through Jeff Rock of Colonial Coinage introducing me to the clubs and joined immediately. I'm learning a lot. Currently just read David Spinks book on 18th Century Provincial Tokens and currently reading The Soho Mint by Richard Doty (checked out from the C4 library).
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