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2024 1 oz Silver St.Helena The Faerie Queene Una And The Lion
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Thank you, jbuck.
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Thank you, Dearborn.
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Fantastic coin GLB.
Cheers Bryan
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This gilt-bronze crown is a restrike of a pattern 5/6d Bank of England token that came to me sort of obliquely as an "unknown" 20-30 years ago in a large group of British colonial tokens. Only over the last few years have I learned that it's a known specimen, produced at the very end of the eighteenth century or the first few years of the nineteenth by a W.J. Taylor, presumably for collectors.

I was pleased to find that this uniface version is catalogued in Davis (one of my exonumismatic bibles) as "a trial piece" listed under Bank of England tokens as D39. Turns out it's also catalogued in a few other books I may never see: e.g., as the Type Kii obverse in Dickinson (the Sylloge, perhaps?); and as #44 in Linecar & Stone's English Proof and Pattern Crown-size Pieces.

According to the handful of auction descriptions I've been able to track down, this restrike was typically produced from rusted dies -- presumably the originals from Soho? -- with the expected flaws, particularly those below George's bust, now seen as markers of authenticity. It has not escaped my notice that I've just used the words "restrike" and "authenticity" in the same sentence...

Hard to say for sure, especially with the original gilding so splotchy,* but I think if I had it slabbed it would come back as an EF...any thoughts?


* Highly technical numismatic terminology.

(41mm, 34.21g, R.)
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Fantastic coin GLB.

Thank you, Bryan. I appreciate it.
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Very interesting coin and information, daltonista.
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Very nice, GLB49!
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Thank you, Errers. I like the reverse image.
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Hiya Daltonista. W J Taylor bought the Soho Mint dies when Matthew Boulton's son closed the place down after selling all the presses off in the first part of the 19th century. Mr Taylor then produced all sorts of "mix and match" issues aimed at the young but growing numismatic market. This coin sounds like one of them.
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This gilt-bronze crown is a restrike of a pattern 5/6d Bank of England token that came to me sort of obliquely as an "unknown" 20-30 years ago in a large group of British colonial tokens...
Very interesting!
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Thank you, everybody!
...and a special thanks to Spyro: you've set me off on my next research project into this Taylor fellow.
I've seen two attributions to him for this "pattern restrike" in auction descriptions...will now be tracking down some primary sources, journal articles, etc.


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Coincraft (Lobel, 1997)
Has this to say on these Soho strikings,
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