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Help Identifying A Coin (Long Cross Penny Perhaps?)

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 Posted 10/30/2012  08:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Calgarychris to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

First real posting, please be gentle! :P

I am in the process of going through my uncle's coins that I received and was wondering if anyone can shed some light on the attached? I'd be curious to know what it is, from which date/period and any idea of grading and value? Thanks very much for any and all info - much appreciated!

Cheers
Chris

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 Posted 10/30/2012  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Henry III long cross penny. I'm thinking class 5B?
Coined by Nicole of London.
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It is a Henry 111 class 4a (with sceptre)
Henry 111 reigned from 1216-72.The long cross coins were towards the end of his reign.
There were 20 different mints and I can't pin yours down. I like Edward 1 onwards.
Nice coin and worth VF money.Nicely centred and unclipped.
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Shouldn't class 4a have a star over the center fleur-de-lys in the crown? Class 5 (and 6 and 7!), also has the King with the sceptre. As I edited above, coiner is Nicole of London.
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Oh, and of course,
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Oh well I think we need a Henry expert.
The spelling was difficult.EVERWIC =York
SANTED = Bury St Edmunds ETC ETC
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 Posted 10/30/2012  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nicole=Lincoln?

Hi Chris and welcome.
We need Clive of Historic coinage who could ID this in a breath.
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 Posted 10/30/2012  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Lincoln (Nicole) mint had 4 moneyers.(I love this learning bit)
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The reverse, clockwise: NIC OLE ONL VND
Obverse: HENRICVS REX III
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>>Oh well I think we need a Henry expert.

We already have one - he posted the second post on this thread.
I think 5B too.
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 Posted 10/30/2012  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aw, shucks. You make me blush.
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 Posted 10/31/2012  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must go and dig another from the local area.
The ON...is the key to the mint.
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Sweet, geez that was quick! Thanks guys! So, summary is that it's a Henry III long cross penny 5B possibly in VF - any idea what it might be worth? I'm assuming from everything I've read that these are silver? When you guys say Nicole, this is the Lincoln mint?

It's got to be one of my favourite coins...

Thanks for all the info - much appreciated!
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 Posted 10/31/2012  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We aims to please! Your uncle passed a nice coin on to you. Neat that it's migrated all the way to the antipodes! L/UND following ON indicates London. Unless someone reads something different here. No class 5 long cross pennies were made in Lincoln. There were also pennies labeled "Nicole" coming out of Shrewsbury, Canterbury, and Winchester (Winchester and Shrewsbury, again, producing no class 5 coins). The "Nicole" in London was Nicholas de Sancto Albano (Nicholas of St. Albans), who was the first moneyer of long cross pennies, and, at the very beginning of the long cross issues in 1247, he was the only one making them. He was also the "Nicole" of the Canterbury mint .
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I'm waiting to be told that the moneyer is someone called "ONLUND NICOLE" :)
but seriously it is exactly as Philadelphian posted.
It's a very nice coin btw.
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