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1798 M 8R- What Do You Make Of This Damage?

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 Posted 11/04/2012  6:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone, I just picked up this 8, and it is quite nice in hand. But I am not sure just how the "W" in the right field might affect the grade of this coin. Any thoughts on the overall grade and possible value of my coin?



1798-M-8R--What-Do-You-Make-Of-This-Damage?

1798-M-8R--What-Do-You-Make-Of-This-Damage?
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 Posted 11/04/2012  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is graffiti (damage). What might be VF 30 coin without the graffiti would be graded VF details with it.

Subtract 10-30 percent of undamaged value, unless you could attribute the initial to George Washington or James Madison :-).
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Westwood Arms- Thanks for the help. That is about what I figured. It is just a bit difficult to see how the overall value of 8's are effected due to their high tolerance for chop marks. And since I am someone who likes Asian chop marks, I don't really see the non-Asian "W" mark as that big of a deal.
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well chop marks are a piece of the coins history and culture.

that W is just a mark.

But if you enjoy it, thats all that matters. Its not too bad and depending on the price, I might have picked it up too.
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I tend in this case to agree with Namachieli the location on the field is typical for a test scratch, Not so much a letter or graffiti as a test to see if the coin is a plated forgery. The 8R was extensively counterfeited during its exceptionally long circulation period.

To a US coin collector that type of damage will COST a lot when you try to sell the coin. The discount quoted 10-30 is a BUY discount in my experience - when you try to sell it expect offeres in the 50% to melt range.

I know that is how they are treated here locally.
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