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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi I have this coin but do not know what it is. Can you help identify please  |
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Opposite of coin |
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New Member
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
I'm sorry about pics being the same but my phone is playing up. The other side is just normal georgivs III dei gratia
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 I've got about 2 myself |
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Valued Member
Ireland
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Sorry guys, isn't this actually one of the imfamous gaming tokens meant to mimic a spade guinea, The obvers legend is all wrong, as is the date 1701, Wiliam III was 1701, and the Guinea was the Ornamental Sceptres type, also the Apade Guinea Obverse Legend was M B F ET H REX FD B ET L D S R I A T ET E
sO I RECKON THIS IS ACTUALLY A BRASS GAMING TOKEN.
SORRY
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Valued Member
Ireland
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Incidently the genuine Obverse legend on the Spade Guinea M B F ET H REX FD B ET L D S R I A T ET E is the abbreviation for "King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lueneburg, Arch Treasurer and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire"
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Moderator
 Australia
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Yep, it's a card game counter, dating from the early 1800s. The "1701" date is as fictitious as the rest of the piece. Sometimes, the manufacturers of these gaming counters encoded their details in the garbled reverse lettering. This one posted on the forum earlier this year, for example, was made by "B.Bros." of Birmingham. I'm not sure if the letters on yours are supposed to mean anything, or if they're just random letters. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Agreed Greeniejim but if you look at the link to en numista they call it a spade guinea and state obviously gaming token. (I am quite new to this, is there a difference ?)
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Valued Member
Ireland
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Rooneydog..Not sure why "NUMISTA" refer to it as a "Spade Guinea" when its very obviously not. Even they refer to it as a gaming token.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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"(I am quite new to this, is there a difference ?)"
- a spade guinea is a particular series of gold coins, circulating in the United Kingdom in the 1700s, at a value, then, of 21 shillings, and weighing about 8.4g.
It was replaced in 1817 by the sovereign, another, slightly smaller, 7.98g, gold coin, valued at 20 shillings.
what is depicted above is a gaming token, manufactured so as to have a superficial similarity to a spade guinea.
Gaming tokens are often brass, and weigh much less than the genuine article, and see the comments above about the fictitious legend, so the manufacturers could avoid any thought of a charge of counterfeiting.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Thanks Peter I have a 1790 gaming token (unfortunately) myself.
Edited by rooneydog
11/07/2012 03:28 am
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