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 Posted 11/06/2012  4:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Johnsderry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is my Hibernian/Irish colonial coin from 1723 :)
Is this worth anything?
Thanks!

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 Posted 11/06/2012  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure looks like it should be - Non standard bust, counterstruck, says 'Hibernia' not Eire.

Story about the name Hibernia -> The Romans went to Ireland after taking Britain and thought it was a dreadful, barbaric and cold wet land and headed home again, calling the island Hibernia - literally 'wintry'. This is the equivalent of landing on a shore in greenland, not liking it much and going home and forever refering to it as 'Squalid barren wasteland' forever more. (no offence if you are one of the 50k people in Greenland! Just an E.g)

At least they didnt have to build a wall against this one, hey?
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 Posted 11/06/2012  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Johnsderry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But on all of those George 1st coins it says Hibernia just like George 2nd and 3rd .

I dont understand what you mean about "at least they didnt have to build a wall against this one "

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 Posted 11/06/2012  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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says 'Hibernia' not Eire.


But on all of those George 1st coins it says Hibernia just like George 2nd and 3rd.

Correct; there aren't any coins that say "Eire" in Gaelic prior to the 20th century.

I believe from the layout of the obverse legends that it's a halfpenny (farthings are similar design, but smaller). There are four varieties of 1723 halfpenny; this appears to be the "without dot before Hibernia" type. Undamaged, it would have been worth $50 or so in this condition, but the huge ugly punch mark in the middle of it seriously devalues it. I doubt you'd get $5 for it now.


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I dont understand what you mean about "at least they didnt have to build a wall against this one "

He's talking about the Romans and ancient Ireland; the Romans had to build a wall across the top of Britain (Hadrian's Wall) to keep the barbarian northerners away, but they didn't need to build a wall to keep the Irish away, since they were on a separate island.
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Ahhh thanks for the info sap,oh well I didn't pay anything for it anyway.
Hahah oh right
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The punchmark devalues it?! In such a conditiion, Id much prefer it with punchmark. Adds some history to the piece.
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whoa really?
Cool
How did this punch mark happen ?
It think it has something to do with the engraved initials on the same spot on the other side.
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I believe from the layout of the obverse legends that it's a halfpenny (farthings are similar design, but smaller). There are four varieties of 1723 halfpenny; this appears to be the "without dot before Hibernia" type. Undamaged, it would have been worth $50 or so in this condition, but the huge ugly punch mark in the middle of it seriously devalues it. I doubt you'd get $5 for it now.




Yeah, that damage would devalue this coin substantially. $40-50 without. Now, $10 tops IMO.
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