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 Posted 03/26/2007  06:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add -JJH- to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
I'm not a collector of US coins, but while taking a little walk around my hometown yesterday (sunday), I walked by a antiques-shop. They had some coins on their window for display and I noticed three US coins.

Now, I really am not sure, that remember correctly, but after browsing the internet, I think two of the coins were commemorative half dollars; Fort vancouver and Monroe Doctrine centennial. If I watched correctly, these were priced together to somewhere around US $24.

Are these coins worth anything? Or are these worth more than $24 US?

I think I'll go there some day and check out which US coins they really are, now I'm just trying to remember what I saw in the window...darn my poor memory

-JJ-
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 Posted 03/26/2007  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have my RedBook with me, so I can't tell you if they are listed in there....do you remember any dates by chance? Depending on your budget, and your gut feel, I don't think $24 is too much money to take a chance, but you can buy a lot of other coins for that much money......If nobody answers by the time I get home tonight, I will page through my books and see what I can find. I think Susan and Bobby have sold some commems in the past, so maybe they will be able to help you with the description that you gave...
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 Posted 03/26/2007  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -JJH- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, tights24, I do understand that it's very difficult to say anything with the information that I provided. Like I said, I'll try to visit the shop someday, when it's still open, and see what coins they really were. All that I could remember, is here...not much that is

-JJ-
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 Posted 03/26/2007  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Monroe Doctrine Centennial, in AU50 is a $50 or better coin. The Ft. Vancouver in AU50 is a $300 coin according to the Red Book. In better grades, the values rise significantly for both.

I'd run, not walk, back to that store if you can get them for $24!

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 Posted 03/26/2007  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -JJH- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WHOA! Are you serious, hunter20ga? Geez, I think I'll visit the store tomorrow immediately after I get out of work...now all I have to do, is to pray that I remember correctly what the coins looked like!

Oh, and this also popped into my mind, one of the half dollars was almost definately Washington-Carver Half Dollar (had to look for picture from the internet)...this worth something?

Anyway, I'll try to go to the store tomorrow and I'll let you guys know, how it goes.

-JJ-
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 Posted 03/26/2007  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Red Book lists the Washington Carver in au-50 at $15 apiece. However I believe that certain dates/mints are worth more due o the number minted. Look for 51d&s, 52 d&s, 53 philly &s and 54 philly and s. These were much smaller mintages by a factor of 10. 51 philly 110,018 51 d&s 10,004 apiece. I hope this helps.
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 Posted 03/26/2007  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JJH...well, I'm not an expert in commemoratives, by any stretch, but the 2007 edition of the Red Book gives those prices, and the following information:

P. 270
Monroe Doctrine Centennial: 1923-S 274,007 minted
AU 50 $54
MS 60 $72
MS 63 $150
MS 65 $3,000

P. 272
Fort Vancouver Centennial: 1925 14,994 minted
AU 50 $300
MS 60 $400
MS 63 $425
MS 65 $1,450

Hope you remembered correctly...and get a good buy on them!
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Here's a couple pages with some great reading on these 2 commemoratives. There's also some current ebay listings on the right side....

Monroe Doctrine Centennial Half Dollar Commemorative

Fort Vancouver Centennial Half Dollar Commemorative

Enjoy....


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 Posted 03/26/2007  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya know, while I was reading this thread again, I thought about the CCF search engine.

Lo and behold, to everyone that reads this, when I plugged in Monroe Doctrine, it sent me right to the page that Bobby linked for us. I'm sure I would have gotten the same result with Ft Vancouver as well. I am guilty as well for crying wolf without doing my own due dilligence and trying to find answers myself.

So, moral of the story is, chances are the CCF has the info to answer a lot of our questions if we just look in the right places.

Of course, our forum Dad did not want to make us look like incompetent twits, so he just nicely added the links without any comment.
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 Posted 03/27/2007  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -JJH- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agh! Why didn't I notice that Search Engine; I found a ton of excellent data concerning these commemorative Half Dollars.

Thank you, guys!

-JJ-
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 Posted 03/27/2007  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know the feeling. I have such a habit of using Google, that I actually open up a new browser to search for things instead of using the forum engine. Stupid stupid stupid...
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 Posted 03/27/2007  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -JJH- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Due to my work, I couldn't go to the shop while it was open. However, I took my Krause catalog with me and tried to identify them through the window (sounds desperate, I know ). First, looks like Washington-Carver is already sold, but there were three other US coins:

1) 1923 Monroe Doctrine Centennial Half Dollar - looks a bit worn, maybe VF/XF, price US $17
2) 1925 Stone Mountain Half Dollar - details look excellent (through a glass window and plastic capsule ), price US $17
3) 1963 Franklin Dollar...VF/XF...worthless? Asking price US $4

Monroe CV was already mentioned, could someone check out CV for 'Stone Mountain' too? Btw, I think I somehow mixed Stone Mnt. to Ft. Vancouver earlier...too bad...Vancouver would've been a sweet finding.

-JJ-
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 Posted 03/27/2007  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The stone mountain memorial is probably a decent pick up. AU to low mint state would be $60-$70. Really good shape, MS65, the RedBook has at $250. Mintage was 1.3 million, so this was actually a pretty high one as far as that goes.

$4 for the franklin is right at market price. It is worth at a minimum of $4.50 just for the melt value, so you really can't go wrong.

Monroe Doctrine AU price is $54, but the mintage was only 274K. May be right at market price, but again not a bad investment for the money.
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 Posted 03/27/2007  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Old saying is Fools rush in where wise men fear to trend or something like that. As to your dealings with these commemoratives and or whatever they are, remember if you don't collect such things, know nothing about them, not sure what you'ld do with them, not sure if you could resell them, etc, etc, etc. Regardless of what you may think those coins are worth, if you have no place to sell them, not sure of the grade, not sure of the value, they are not worth anything. Remember if you had any item that is worth millions of dollars and no one wanted it, no one will buy it, it is only worth what you like about it, nothing more. I've had way to many coins worth a lot of money but since no one wanted them, they are not realy worth what the books or people say. Example is one of my cars is over 40 years old, 24,000 miles, garage kept, convertible and eveyone I know say it's worth a fortune. However, just for the fun of it I pretended I wanted to sell it and my best offer was for less than the price of tires on my new car. Again, regardless of what someone may say something is worth, what can you sell it for is what it is really worth.
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 Posted 03/27/2007  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to ask just carl. What make/model of car?
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 Posted 03/28/2007  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -JJH- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just carl, that is very, very true...book value does not actually mean anything, it's just a book value that might or might not realize. It is a matter of markets.

But since we're talking about very little money at the moment, I'd say these just might be worth the investment. If I cannot sell them anywhere, then I could just let'em sit on my desk until I die of old age This matter would be totally different, if the items in question would cost me $1,000,000 a piece.

I think I'll go and grab at least that Stone Mountain, but I'm a little hesitant on the Monroe, since it looked fairly worn.

-JJ-


PS. just carl...I'd also be interested in hearing what make/model of car are you talking about
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03/28/2007 01:30 am
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