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 Posted 11/07/2012  10:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cpacker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
All I have is the wording around the coin. Obverse: Ti Caesar Divi Avg F Augustus. Reverse: Augusta Vindelicorum 15v. CHR. The rim is stamped FEINSILBER 000/000. I've been trying to identify this coin for almost 2 years. If anyone can help I would be very thankful.

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 Posted 11/07/2012  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's dated 1985, I believe, and no value is expressed, so it's not a coin. My Latin is almost non-existent, but some of the words look a little odd to me. Probably some kind of a medal.

However, wait a few minutes. An expert will be along directly to help you out. I'm just speculating!
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 Posted 11/07/2012  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
15 v Chr is "fünfzehn vor Christus," German for 15 B.C. Augusta Vindelicorum was the Roman name for the city of Augsburg Germany. This coin is therefore celebrating Augsburg's 2000th anniversary.
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11/08/2012 09:20 am
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 Posted 11/08/2012  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpacker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I keep coming up with Augsburg, Germany. But could not find any thing on this coin.
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 Posted 11/08/2012  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse seems to be a copy of a silver denarius of Tiberius Caesar, Augustus' stepson, who followed him as emperor in 14 AD. Well prior to that, in 15 BC, as a general, he is believed to have founded the Germanic Roman outpost that became Augsburg. The reverse is modern design, and displays the (botanically incorrect) pineapple that became the city's traditional symbol. Feinsilber is German for "pure silver." As to the designers/medallists, I would suggest appealing to the Augsburg city council or tourist board.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, that symbol (the core part of the city's CoA) is not supposed to be a pineapple. :) In German the thing depicted on that side of the medal is called a Zirbelnuss. (Cembra nut? Anyway, a sort of pine cone.) The symbol was already in use in ancient Rome, and apparently the legion that was first stationed in the newly founded place used it as its "signum".

What I find strange is the number after the word "Feinsilber". 000/000 looks as if they numbered the pieces, except it should then say something like 117/500 (piece number 117 of 500). But zeros only? Hmmm.

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 Posted 11/10/2012  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haven't been to Augsburg since about 1984, but at that time the locals seemed to refer to this object, found on every flag and finial, as their Ananas ("pineapple"). Guess they felt the need to dumb it down for us Americans. Thanks for the full story!
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The symbol was already in use in ancient Rome, and apparently the legion that was first stationed in the newly founded place used it as its "signum".


Interesting, strange choice for a legion, but then I guess they couldn't all have 'cool' lions, eagles and bulls
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Haven't been to Augsburg since about 1984, but at that time the locals seemed to refer to this object, found on every flag and finial, as their Ananas ("pineapple"). Guess they felt the need to dumb it down for us Americans.

Oh those weird Bavarians ... The Augsburg-Wiki has an article (in German though) about the "Zirbelnuss" as the city's symbol, used in the coat of arms and indeed for many others purposes. http://www.augsburgwiki.de/index.ph...i/Zirbelnuss Seems that, at some time in ancient Rome, it was a symbol of immortality and fertility.

Here comes the tricky part. When the Augsburgers "re-discovered" the Zirbelnuss, it was apparently considered to be some kind of pear or berry first. And as from the 18th century, a big strawberry maybe? Now have a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry ... "It is also called the pineapple strawberry, or ananas strawberry." Did not know about that connection myself until last night, but there you have your Ananas. ;)

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 Posted 11/11/2012  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does that Augsburg-Wiki have anything about this anniversary medal?
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