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Confederate States Of America Currency, 1863 & 1864

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 Posted 11/10/2012  8:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add blecksters to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found some C.S.A currency when I moved to a new house. I worried about the authenticity of them, due to the amount of fake money printed in this time.
One thing that worried me was that I had four identical 10 dollar bills. (one shown below) They have the exact same signatures and serial number: 40679. Date: February 17,1864
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I also found one 20 dollar bill. Has the same date: Feb. 17, 1864. Serial number: 46410.
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Lastly, I found two 100 dollar bills. Again, with the same signatures, serial number: 65798 and they both have the date: November 20, 1862.
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If someone with some experience with this type of currency would be able to help, I would really appriciate an expert opinion and be able to know what they would be worth. Thank you.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimjumper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are almost certainly fake. I'll do some research later and get more info but if you check the signatures and serial #'s they are printed rather than hand signed. Almost all Confederate notes were hand signed.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimjumper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got curious myself and just checked and according to Slaubaugh's book on Confederate, Whitman Publishing released these notes in the '60s. Check the back and it may have the word "Facsimile" in small letters in the lower left corner. It might not be there since it could have been trimmed off but the printed signatures and matching serial's re a dead giveaway that they are fake.
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Just notice the facsimile. What a disappointment.
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 Posted 04/09/2013  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add west- canuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hoping to see some notes similar to mine on this thread, the portrait of the president is the same as my $5 Farmers and Exchange but that's the only similarity I can see.
Here are some photos, could someone place a value on them please.
Thanks in advance. Don


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Here is a good website that lists the known counterfeit serial numbers used for these replicas.
http://www.tomchao.com/replicas2.html#top

For the others that I think are fake and not on that list, the eyes of the characters are usually the easiest way to tell. Almost all of them are poorly done.
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Darn, that FACSIMILE just turned my confederate $5 into a piece of regular paper..
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 Posted 04/03/2015  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Orlando di Lasso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where does it say facsimile? I can't find it on the pictures. Thanks.
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Where does it say facsimile? I can't find it on the pictures. Thanks.


Not written on the note. The serial number indicates it is a reproduction.
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Here's an example of an authentic one for comparison...
The way I determine authenticity on these confederate notes are a few key features...

-Serial number reference with known fakes

-signatures, serials, the month, day, and last number of the year should all be HAND-WRITTEN (186 will be printed in the year).
You can see in the signature where the lines are very bumpy along the edge, and this is because the quill ink bled a bit when fresh. Also, anything hand written should have lightly bled through to the back of the note, because of the ultra - thin paper.

-interest stamps should usually be present, as most customers would have collected due interest on the notes while in poses ion of them, especially during post-war times.

-borders should all be very rough, as these notes were cut out by hand with either scissors, or even worse, by sliding sheers all the way across the entire sheet of notes!

I would love some other opinions from members or "tells", about these notes!


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Additional info on the signatures: the pen ink is made from an iron compound that "rusts" over time, turning brown. The signature ink should not only have bled through the paper, but be a distinctly different colour to the lithographed-black ink of the rest of the note. Repro notes usually use a uniform tone for all the black features, with the signatures printed onto the design at the same time as the rest of the note, using the same black colour.


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Where does it say facsimile? I can't find it on the pictures. Thanks.



Not written on the note. The serial number indicates it is a reproduction.

Actually, the notes posted by the OP do have the word "FACSIMILIE" stamped into them, as jimjumper reported, at the bottom of the back of the note.
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 Posted 10/06/2015  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stacia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just looking to see if my facsimile was worth anything and found this thread. For those still interested, here's a picture of where it says "facsimile" on the reverse side of the twenty like OP posted:

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