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GB £2 Coin, Real, Fake Or Just A Bad Strike?

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 Posted 11/11/2012  06:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MikeG to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found in my change today. A little worn but most of it looks original.
What drew my attention was the motto around the rim 'The Authorised Version'. It's not straight by any means. This is usually one of the give aways with fakes. The weight is correct at 12g. What are your opinions?
Apologies for the poor pics, taken in a hurry with flash but demonstrates the edge quite clearly.
Thanks,
Mike.

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11/11/2012 11:48 am
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 Posted 11/11/2012  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"The Authorised Version" is an alternative name for the "King James Version", or King James Bible.

It does look like a very poor strike. The only £2 fakes I have heard of were monometallic, with paint applied to give the bimetallic effect. I would be interested to hear more about this coin.
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Anaximander; thanks for your comment, I hadn't heard of any fakes like this either. If it's real this must be one of the poorest coins I've ever seen come out of The Royal Mint. The whole thing is quite poorly struck, both sides, not withstanding the crooked legend on the milled edge.
I'll try and get some better pics of it later or tomorrow. These were taken in a hurry as visitors turned up suddenly.
Mike.
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Better pics...

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Best I can do as coin is so shiny and reflective.
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 Posted 11/11/2012  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look decidedly dodgy. Just look at the letters "D.G." on the obverse and how they are not central at all.
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Bacchus2; I've checked with the magnifier and those letters do look as clean as the others but the whole thing is off centre. However I've seen this Off centre problem on many £2 coins in the past. They seem unable to get the central core and the pattern of dots to align.
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It would be an odd one to fake - why pick on one that people are going to look closely at if they get one. Perhaps it is just a poor quality example - the Queens head looks fine - it's just the outer rim design that looks off.
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It just isn't worth faking such a thing - It looks like the mint is slipping. But good workon finding one - I've not found a King James yet.
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Thanks for your comments folks. I guess it's real but a very poor example. Quite honestly the worse newish coin I've found from The Royal Mint.

I always check my change for new releases and so far all the ones I've found have been excellent; most coming in as basically UC quality.

I also wouldn't have thought the £2 was really worth faking with all the extra work involved, when faking £1 would be so much easier.

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It certainly looks 'off' but agree with Bacchus2 and MikeG, if your going to fake one fake a common one, better still just fake 2 x £1 coins, we all know how many of those are floating about and the vast majority of them pass unnoticed.
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I agree with MikeG about the inner ring of dots. I have a large collection of £2 coins and off-centre dot rings are common. Occasionally I see on ebay people offering coins which say "TWO DOUNDS" instead of "TWO POUNDS", as if they are some kind of rarity, (they are not). All that has happened is the strike is slightly off-centre and the tail of the "P" is lost in the join between the two parts of the coin.

Looking at the close-ups I don't think this is fake, just poorly struck.
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