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1834 Bust Quarter O Over F

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what do you guys think of it ? what grade do you give it

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to the forum!

I am having a tough time with the pictures and not the best at these - can't wait to see what others will have to say.
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Nice coin. Thinking VF 35 - XF 40
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how much do you think the coin would be worth if I slab it ?
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I am not familiar with the O/F can you take a picture of this area?
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i cant I need a 10x zoom in my camera on my phone cant take it
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I am not familiar with the O/F can you take a picture of this area?


O over F in OF, making the O and F look connected as if a die break did it. Kinda like a "horned O" Morgan variety. You'd know one if you saw it.
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ssuperddave you seem familiar to this kind of coin so what do you think of mine ?
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ssuperddave you seem familiar to this kind of coin so what do you think of mine ?


Never heard of it before today. I'm just good at research.

Ran down where you purchased it for the better pics; I think VF35. Yes, it'll carry a bit of a premium due to the variety, but demand is relatively low simply because not many people collect these. Nicely bought at the price, and it would bring a small profit if it made VF35 in a PCGS slab.
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1834 B-1 variety R-1 very common. There is repunching in the legend from ES trough AM, the tops of the OF are connected by a curved line like the top of an O. The main diagnostic feature of this reverse in the vertical red stripes in the shield are made up of two vertical lines. This is the only reverse die like this in the whole series. All the others have the red stripes made up of three vertical lines.
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Conder101 is my 1834 o/f common ?
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Pictures are too dark and small to be very confident but it looks to be in the choice VF range (VF-30 or better). The color is too dark for my taste but does appear original. Many collectors like that dark, "crusty" appearance.

The O/F variety is common but is listed in the Red Book and may carry a small premium. My old Red Book shows it at a $10 premium in VF and a $75 premium in EF, compared to the normal type.

I have one of these that I bought as a normal coin; it just happened to be the O/F type and I didn't realize that until years later. I don't know the full explanation for the variety but I presume the die was first punched with the F in the wrong place and it was mostly polished away before being re-punched in the proper location. The arc of metal connecting the O and F is apparently the remnant of the top of the old F. Here is a photo of the area of interest. Note the filled A in America which I think is usually seen with the variety.


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Thank you @Jaobler - I was not sure if I was looking at the right spot.

@machete714, I would love to see a close up. I think it is a nice coin, I am learning about these as well. Hopefully you will be able to borrow a camera that can get a close up, Mr. Demille!
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