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1964 Kennedy Half - Dark Patina With Some Rainbow - Opinions

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I purchased 11 Kennedy halves (1964) on Saturday and three of them had this rich patina with some rainbow. I'm not sure what could have caused the change in color (I did not alter these coins in any way). There is some wear on his cheek which leads me to believe it had some handling or circulation after it oxidized. All three coins look identical in color and wear patterns. Any ideas? Thanks guys.


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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen a lot of toned coins and they tone differently. It all depends on how they were handled. Its really hard to say because it could be many things. Weather ....storage...etc.
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Just simple tarnish. Happens on coins all the time, even non silver ones. Too much of it is the nasty black tarnish to make those worth more than melt. If it were just the rainbow toning that you see poking out, that would be something different.

The wear you see is common on Kennedy's. High points being cheek bones, head just below the part and trunk of neck, those will get the wear first.
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I don't see the rainbow but the dark look is cool, I call it "crusty"
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Crusty The Clown.

I like my dark patina on antiques, not coins. I'll stick one on ebay and see what happens. At the very least it will do silver value.
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I love toned coins but I will say that those would not be on my list of favorites. They are basically just tarnished silver. There is some color on the reverse but it is overwhelmed by, as was referred to previously, crust. Zero premium and worth melt ($12)

I know I will get flamed for suggesting this but you will be amazed how much better those would look after a quick dip....never dip a coin with ANY numismatic value but a coin with only bullion value would definitely appreciate a nice bath

...or just let them tarnish (umm..develop patina) more...they will soon be totally black if left out in the open air
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Normal tarnish from being left unprotected for decades. They have the same color and tone as some JFK halves I got a few months ago from a lady that kept them in an open tin can in her pantry from a long time. A quick test with acetone did not improve one at all so I sold them for melt at the time.
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I appreciate all the help. Just for giggles I think I'll try one on ebay. You know how some of those bidders LOVE to overpay. I'll be more than happy to help relieve them of their financial accesses.

Worse case, I'll get melt.
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Some folks like different surface conditions...you never know someone may be looking for the conditions present on your Kennedy(s).
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11/20/2012 11:35 am
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Quote:
Worse case, I'll get melt.


Well....kinda

The last few that sold (bright, non-tarnished coins) sold for around $12.50 (melt right now is $11.98)

but....after ebay and PayPal fees your net will be $10.71 and that's assuming you will additionally charge for shipping and packaging which will increase your fees accordingly.

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11/20/2012 11:43 am
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Ummmm, I started selling on ebay in December of 1997. I remember when ebay fees were around 3 percent. That's when selling was fun and more profitable.

I've sold over 5000 items. I appreciate your advice.
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Those were the good ole' days with ebay

That auction starting at .99 and ending with a bid of 12.50 would have these fees:

Final value fee: $1.13
PayPal fee.....: 0.66
Net proceeds $10.71
Total fee percentage of 14.32%

If you charge for shipping that amount is ALSO subject to those fees

Small value items get hit hard....and the higher value ones don't do much better
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Foxwoods Man,

I sold a vintage Rolex back around 1999. I paid 1200 from a pawn shop and it brought 7000 on ebay. The dealer didn't know what he had. My fees were around 240. Today they'd be around 850. They do this a million times a day and ebay complains they don't make enough money.
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Maximum ebay auction fee is $250.

PayPal would be an additional 3% so $460 (250 + 210)
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