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United Arab Emirates
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I found a couple fakes today that were non-magnetic. No clue as to what the composition is, but thought interesting enough to get for a few bucks. What do you think?   |
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Philippines
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 BLadd  well, the genuine Great Britain 1911 Trade dollar is supposed to be really non-magnetic, cant see the details in the picture, in Krause it is km# T5 26.9568grams at 90% silver equal to 0.78 Oz asw if the weight of your Trade dollar is same as listed in krause, then most likely its genuine. my fake dollar coins are usually in the 21-24 gram range |
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 United Arab Emirates
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Thanks for the welcome and response Nic. I will look for a scale today and try to get an accurate weight.
I figured since I got several fake coins from the same place, they were all the same. These were the only two that were non-magnetic though.
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 Australia
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The cheapest modern "Chinese" counterfeits are made of either steel (which is magnetic) or a brassy alloy that's given a wash in something silvery (sometimes they even use mercury, so wash your hands after handling them!). I've noticed that these washed-brass fakes often look OK in hand but come up dirty-yellowish-coloured when scanned or photographed - a case of "the camera doesn't lie". The coins in your pics definitely seem to have a yellow tint to them.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Australia
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Oh, and the Ike should be easy to test for genuineness: if the edge shows a copper stripe around the middle, it's genuine.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United Arab Emirates
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Thank you for the response and information Sap. I figured the Ike to be fake simply because the reverse is 180 degrees rotated. If I flip this coin end over end, the reverse is upside down and not right side up. Does that make sense?
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Australia
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I figured the Ike to be fake simply because the reverse is 180 degrees rotated. If I flip this coin end over end, the reverse is upside down and not right side up. Does that make sense? Describing coin rotation can be tricky without seeing a video. But try this: stand in front of the mirror and hold the coin up so you can see one side "right way up". Is the reflection of the other side of the coin "upside-down" or "right way up"? For an Ike dollar, the reflection should be upside-down. This is 180 degree die orientation, also known as "coin alignment", as opposed to zero degree die orientation being "medal alignment". All American coins are coin-aligned. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Arab Emirates
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I did the mirror check Sap and the reverse shows the same right way up as the obverse. You think describing coin rotation is tricky, I tried getting a photo of it in the mirror, that's pretty darn tricky too.  Thank you very much for your insight and assistance. |
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United States
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All Ike dollars are non-magnetic. It's not counterfeit. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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why would you CF an Ike?/
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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United States
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why would you CF an Ike?/ Keep in mind, the OP is in an ideal place to be exposed to these types of fakes. Back in the day, the varying types of Trade dollars were very common in his area - Arabia (to use a broad term) was a target destination for them as well as the Orient. |
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United States
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Sorry, I did not see the part about the 180 degree rotation on the back. With a regular Ike, if you flip it end over end, they will alternate upside-down/rightside-up. If that is not the case, then it may indeed be fake.
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