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Flying Eagle Cent: Holy Recycled Motifs, Batman!

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Call me dense , but while browsing Numista's 46 pages of US coin pictures, the level of motif reuse on the Flying Eagle cent has just astounded me.

Reverse wreath on Flying Eagle cent is the same as on 1854-1889 $1 and $3 gold.

Obverse eagle on Flying Eagle cent = Reverse eagle of 1836-1838 Dollar
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 Posted 11/27/2012  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An 1855 Flying Eagle cent? I know about the 56, 57, 58 large and 58 small but didn't know about that one. What's the deal with an 1855?
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Yep--all those coins were designed by James B. Longacre.
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the 1855 large cent flying eagle coin is actually the only pattern coin I have ever seen. the man who owned it was in his 80's and he told me he had the the chance to buy the 1855 pattern or the 1856. it is interesting though that the 1856 is worth more. I guess the demand
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And Gobrecht's eagle was pretty much worshiped by every coin designer who followed, up to and including St. Gaudens who declared his Double Eagle was modeled on it.
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I actually have a 2nd 1855 Flying Eagle cent:

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Aren't they cool Proof Patterns!
As easj3699 correctly pointed out, It is a Large Cent. The eagle was used the following year for the 1856 small cent (which is also a Pattern). This coin was struck in bronze. The mint decided to go with the small cent option, they felt the large cents were to big and cumbersome.
more info can be seen here:
http://uspatterns.com/j167.html

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There is also an 1854 flying eagle pattern too. (J-164 There is a picture of it in my copy of the RedBook 2006 edition.) The 1854 and 55 are "large cents" but they were smaller and thinner than what the current large cent was.
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Here are pictures of the 1854 Flying Eagle Large Cent:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/uspatterns_2201_33220299

Pictures are from uspatterns website.....I do not have one of these......yet.
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This is interesting! Up until this thread I knew nothing about an 1854 and 1855 Flying Eagle large cent. Thanks for the information.

So are these considered prototypes (what's the correct term for these?) Approx how many were minted with the years 1854 and 1855? I'm doing a lot of googling right now researching these coins.


UPDATE:

I see they're called "pattern coins"and now I've learned about them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_coin

http://www.collectorusa.com/article...ng_eagle.php

This is interesting!

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Your best bet, matchbox, is to check out uspatterns.com, where g048406 has linked examples of some of his wonderful toys. It's the go-to reference for pattern coins.
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