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 Posted 11/26/2012  7:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1967Canadapenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi y'all
This is one of my favorite pocket pieces, its a 1995 s clad half dollar. Four months ago I posted it and a few people suspected it might be counterfeit, and the thread got deleted. Anywho, Its not counterfeit, and here are some better pics from today. I have no clew what it would grade now but the general consensus from four months ago was VF 30-35. Thanks everyone


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 Posted 11/26/2012  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
something still looks off to me but I am not a modern collector so the opinions would have to come from someone that is. A 1995 S should be a Proof coin and this one doesn't look like even a circulated proof to me
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 Posted 11/26/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add That Canadian Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In what way has this coin wronged you that it deserve such an awful fate?
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 Posted 11/26/2012  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1967Canadapenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan, Do you think it might be the photo quality?

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In what way has this coin wronged you that it deserve such an awful fate?


I'm not sure how to respond to that
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 Posted 11/27/2012  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LTMets44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A pocket piece is a coin that means something to you, or you just like to look at it. I say, nice piece and enjoy it. =)
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 Posted 11/27/2012  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What looks odd here is that there seems to be no hint of reflectivity in the fields.

Even this circulated 2000-S Silver Proof JFK still has a good amount of reflectivity left, as do the other impaired Proofs I've found (mostly Clad State Quarters).

Impaired Proof coins' fields are usually heavily scratched, which is not the case here. It appears this coin could have been media-blasted or chemically treated.
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Even this circulated 2000-S Silver Proof JFK still has a good amount of reflectivity left, as do the other impaired Proofs I've found (mostly Clad State Quarters).

I think the difference is your coin and the OP's coin are not of the same grade. Yours looks more like a PR-55/58 to me while the OP's is more like a PR-25/30. From what I have seen, when a business strike grades below a EF, the coin usually has no remnants of the original surface even in the most protected of areas. Even though this is a proof, I think the same would apply. A proof coin worn to this grade, I would expect to look just like a business strike worn to the same grade with the exception of a couple signs that indicate what it once was. If you take away the S and the sharp rims, the coin would look like a perfectly normal circulation strike.

I looked at a picture posted earlier, just to compare. I would have graded that a PR-35. I will be eagerly awaiting future periodic updates.
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DNA, The coin does have a little bit of reflectivity left near e-pluribus unum, but otherwise the tone and look of the coin looks similar to my other clad pocket pieces.

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I looked at a picture posted earlier, just to compare. I would have graded that a PR-35. I will be eagerly awaiting future periodic updates.

That was kind of the point of this thread, I wanted to share the progression of my pocket piece(s) over time. I think I'll revisit this in a couple months, in addition to posting my other favorite coins.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it could be the photo that made me think something didn't look right, it just has a flat lifeless look that I am not used to seeing on any modern coin but have seen on many counterfeit coins. I am guessing that is the reason it was said it could be counterfeit the last time you posted it
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Kennedy looks a little chubby...
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Why would anyone go to the trouble of counterfeiting a coin with so little value?
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a flat lifeless look that I am not used to seeing on any modern coin but have seen on many counterfeit coins.

That's why I suspected a "not just circulation wear" cause for its appearance, such as media blasting or chemicals.

A local dealer has a P-12 Barber Proof Dime, and its fields still look noticeably different than the typical Fine business strike Barber dime.
Like a very fogged mirror, but a richer silver color than a Fine-grade business strike Barber.

This coin is the opposite, much flatter and duller coloration than the typical VF business strike JFK, almost like a cast counterfeit's color (but I highly doubt anyone would counterfeit a 1995-S JFK).
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My change gets laundered all the time. Maybe it's laundry detergent that caused it to look like that?
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Maybe it's laundry detergent that caused it to look like that?

Or bleach!
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