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Robinson Cutler Token 1841?

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 Posted 12/03/2012  08:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sheencrofter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought this token yesterday and it is of interest to me because I used to live near Oxford, England many years ago.

Robinson-Cutler-Token-1841?

Robinson-Cutler-Token-1841?

On the obverse it reads Robinson Cutler Oxford. Also there is a picture of who I believe to be George III and it does have III above his head.
There is a faint Britania on the reverse but there is no date on the token.
The token weighs 17'2 grams and measures 35 mm.
So far I have managed to do the following research.
Cutler means a person who made cuttlery (knives & forks etc).
Sarah Robinson
born 1791
Shop at 46 Cornmarket, Oxford.
Shown re index a below as being in shop from 1939-1946
1841 census - No. 46 is occupied by the cutler Sarah Robinson (50) and John (25), Jane (20), Sarah (15), and Jemima (13)

index a
http://www.oxfordhistory.org.uk/cor...t/45_46.html

If anyone has anymore info on this token I would be really interested to hear from them.

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 Posted 12/03/2012  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Later today I'll look to see if it's in Brunk, if anyone else hasn't.
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This is actually a counterstamped coin which, by "virtue" of the stamping renders it a token of sorts. It's still a coin, but one that then has appeal for token collectors who seek historic relics of commerce from bygone days. The counterstamp tells us that a particular merchant used this coin to advertise and promote their business.

Dr. Gregory Brunk is considered to be one of the foremost authorities on the subject of counterstamped coins. Brunk states (2003) that the counterstamps or countermarks (terms often used synonymously) of Robinson are among the most commonly encountered ones on English coins. There were a number of different combinations of the counterstamps, ROBINSON, CUTLER, RAZOR, OXFORD and some other words, creating different varieties. The subject coin, a halfpenny (1806?), appears to be Brunk #R-388. According to Brunk, these countermarks/counterstamps were applied after 1837. English subjects would not likely want to deface the new coinage of their then Queen Victoria; probably, it being better, even popular, to deface the coinage of George!

James Robinson (commencing 1830 or so) is thought to have been running the business in 1837 at 46 Cornmarket. Perhaps, James was John's father and died about 1839? Brunk says that John was at 44 Cornmarket until 1847. For what it's worth, I've found that errors in this sort of research are fairly common.
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 Posted 12/03/2012  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There you go. Exo got it from Brunk. Thanks.
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 Posted 12/04/2012  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sheencrofter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks to both of you for the info.
Can one of you tell me what the name of the book by Brunk is called. I think I will find it most useful.
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 Posted 12/04/2012  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome.

Merchant and Privately Countermarked Coins: Advertising on the World's Smallest Billboards - 2nd Edition, Gregory G. Brunk, World Exonumia Press, 2003
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 Posted 12/04/2012  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Brunk book will probably set you back $150 or even more than twice the issue price, if and when you can find one. The collecting of counterstamped coins has ballooned since the book's issue in 2003. I personally regard this collecting genre as the "final frontier" of numismatics .... A point at which circulating coins take on new identity, thanks to those who stamped them.
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Looks like I shall have to save some cash before I buy the book.
Thanks
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