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 Posted 12/04/2012  4:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm not sure if this sort of thing has a specific name or is collectible, but if the 1 were a 0 (or vice versa) the number would read the same rightside up or upside down:

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 Posted 12/04/2012  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice note!

That's the kind of number that makes me sit and think -- as though that could change the number into a fancy collectible number. It just looks like it 'should' be something...but alas, I think not.

However, it is a nice note and if you ever decided to sell it, the number is more interesting than most so that could help a little.

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 Posted 12/04/2012  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those type serials are referred to as a rotator or a flipper. It obviously can only have certain numbers in the serial like 1, 6, 8, 9, and 0. Some say that 1's don't count (because it's not symmetrical) but I say hogwash. Here is mine.

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Thanks, Nickelman! I knew there had to be a name for it. No plans to sell this one, since it's in my type album...
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I thought that because the numeral one isn't just a straight line that it would not be a rotator.

Happy to learn otherwise.

It is a cool note with a cool number.

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 Posted 12/06/2012  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I thought that because the numeral one isn't just a straight line that it would not be a rotator


That's what I was saying. Not everyone will accept a note with a couple of ones in the serial as a flipper. It just depends on who you are talking to. If I find a note for my own collection with ones in the serial I'm going to keep it. I have also sold some with ones in the serial so that is proof to me that others don't mind either.
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 Posted 12/06/2012  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am one of those who thinks ONE is not a flipper.

As Nick said collectors will see / view things differently.

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Nice note nick....Zee had / has 6000 0009 or 9000 0006...not sure of the exact placement etc...but it was a flipper radar.
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I think I have a few of those, I'll check later tonight,
I don't collect currency numbers so they don't mean much to me. Same for the Eagle Radar note that I posted earlier.

If anyone wants any special number notes that I may have your welcome to them, but they are part of my main series year collection so would need the sane note in at least the same condition to replace the fancy number one I may have.
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 Posted 12/06/2012  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Bill Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just did a quick check on the so called "flipper" number notes and found three of them in my Small Size collection, may have more, didn't check all of them, I guess there not that hard to find. I haven't checked my Large Size collection for numbers like that.

But if 1's don't count then I may have none. And that's ok because I don't collect currency that way. But I'll keep checking, I only looked at about half of my Small Size and none of my Large Size. I'll check the rest in a day or two.

Some have also said that the Eagle note I posted may not be a true Radar because the letters in the number are different ?.
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Bill Collector:

The individual digits of those serial numbers can be read in either orientation, true enough, but the numbers as a whole are not the same both ways and therefore wouldn't qualify.

If the serial number on my note had a 0 instead of a 1, it would be60669909, which would look the same if you flipped it upside down.
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I was wondering if people would get the wrong idea of what we were talking about since that first note is not a flipper. Guess we should have clarified that better.
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Well, that's why I said it was "almost" an interesting serial number...
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I must have misunderstood what a "flipper" note was. I thought it was a number that of course could be read right side up but when held up side down, or "flipped", a different number could be read.

Such as my 000910 right side up would be 016000 up side down.

So if this is not a flipper what is it ?, not that I care that much as I only collect currency not currency numbers but I am curious.
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Bill collector,
When I first started collecting fancy sn's I made the same mistake as you...and learnt quite a bit from this discussion back in 2010 on the Canadian side of things.

https://goccf.com/t/74916

Hope you enjoy the reading.

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For a nerd like ME or Nick...Your 000910 would be a partial ladder
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This is starting to sound interesting, not knowing anything about how numbers are collected other than some are just neat like all 1's etc. I was sure that what I had were flippers. I would never had thought of something like this myself because I had no interest in just numbers. I'll check some of my old e mails later tonight an see if I can find where I got that idea from.
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 Posted 12/07/2012  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Bill Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found what I was looking for.
Another collector sent this to me awhile back.

FLIPPER:
Note with a serial number comprised of numerals that can be read upside down as well as right side up, but the serial number itself does not read the same upside down as right side up.

SWIMS:
A note in which the serial number reads the same upside down, as it does right side up.

Somewhere out in cyberspace there's a site that explains this in more detail plus has a lot more info on things like this. I'm going to search for it tomorrow.

If this is correct the notes I have may be flippers, or am I still not getting it right.
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