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Valued Member
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 Bought this coin a while back before 2012 population report was released. I wonder why this is not on the population report. Wondering sometimes the reliability of population numbers on rare coins which might affect our determination to commit to a purchase especially during an auction.
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Back door job,i.e.unofficial fabrication.Doesn't deserve to be listed.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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i am curious as to where I can find the 2012 population report, where can I purchase it?
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Pillar of the Community
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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12/05/2012 3:29 pm
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MJT, back door job or not it is a spectacular coin!
The double struck 50 cent coin is listed in the CCN Trends at $1250.
I would love to find out what your Triple Struck is worth!
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My real intention about this topic is not about the coin. ICCS does include double struck,triple struck, flip struck whatever on their population report. For the triple struck 50 cents, they did not show a MS-65 exist. I bought this coin in 2011 and I look at the population report 2011, the coin is not noted on the report. Maybe I thought it should be noted on the 2012 report, it is also not noted. When sometimes you buy coins off ebay, some people note top grade with none higher etc. However, the fact is that there is actually a higher grade item which is just not noted. you will feel kind off rip off when you see the higher grade item, even knowing you have a really nice coin in hand. |
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 This Triple Struck half is a BEAUTY, nicest I've ever seen. A buyer right here if your ever interested. Personally some may think of this coin as a "back door job", however I don't feel this way about it. Unlike the J.O.P. hack job, whether this was done intentionally or unintentionally by Mint employees, it was done by "agents" of the Mint! All employees of the R.C.M. are deemed an "agent" of the R.C.M. and whatever is produced by them is considered to be an official legal tender coin. It may not be "authorized" by the administration of the Mint, however, it was produced at the Mint using Mint equipment, under Mint guidelines and by Mint employees. Therefore, I would not hesitate to incorporate this piece with the rest of my Collection, in a Heart Beat! Glenn  |
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you should contact ICCS, they graded it and they produce and sell the population report, therefore it should be in their pop report.
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I put little faith in the accuracy of the ICCS population report... let alone what ebay sellers claim... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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The ICCS pop report is useless. People take it as gospel yet it has proven to be UNTRUTHFUL on many occasions just like this. Just as unreliable as ICCS holders like the post of the unsealed flip.
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The report is semi-good for more classic coins, but for errors, varieties, mules, and cameo coins, it should be taken only as a rough estimation. I have a couple that are a grade above anything listed in the report, but are nonetheless quite real. I would not be a happy camper if I paid top dollar for an ICCS "finest" only to later learn that was not finest at all.
Also, even on the more established coins, ICCS (as well as PCGS, who addressed this with more positive identification of coins) can not differentiate "real" coins from multiple re-submissions. How many coins out there have been graded MS-65 three times, and finally MS-66? A few, and in such a case the one coin will account for four in the population report.
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 1cent states:"Also, even on the more established coins, ICCS (as well as PCGS, who addressed this with more positive identification of coins) can not differentiate "real" coins from multiple re-submissions. How many coins out there have been graded MS-65 three times, and finally MS-66? A few, and in such a case the one coin will account for four in the population report." It's so true what 1cent states, I know soooo many dealer's and collector's alike that do crack out's and resubmissions for higher grades the T.P.G.'s Population Report has seemed to have lost it's true meaning. Unfortunately trend pricing are also partially made up of Population Reports, so are we all shooting ourselves in the foot with all these resubmissions? Glenn |
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Posted 12/05/2012 2:23 pm
