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Romania 1946 Silver 100,000 Lei Real Or Cut?

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Imasnore's Avatar
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 Posted 12/08/2012  1:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Imasnore to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The published weight on this coin is 25 grams. I weigh it, and it is 21 grams. There might be a small discrepancy from mint weight to circulated coin weight but this is a very wide gap.

Did Romanian 1946 Silver 100k Lei cut their silver content from 70% to lower and used a lighter filler metal or is this Lei a reproduction?

About 37 mm, 21 grams, inprinted edge.


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 Posted 12/08/2012  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mvojnovic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This might help, from krause 2011:

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 Posted 12/08/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mvojnovic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If its 4 grams under weight I would say its more than 80% chance its fake.
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 Posted 12/08/2012  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not knowledgeable on these coins, but I consider a 4gr difference a serious discrepancy on a silver coin.
Perhaps it's just the pics, but the surfaces look a lot like the crown-sized fakes out there.
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 Posted 12/08/2012  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What THAT much difference from standard weight: fake.

There is an almost negligible possibility that this piece may have been struck from a lightweight blank, but that would have to be confirmed in already written numismatic literature.
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 Posted 12/08/2012  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imasnore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will have to have an xray analysis of this coin to determine the silver content. Krause lists it as 70% 25 grams but the one I have is only 21 grams, so it must be something else...the images appear correct, I was hoping the inprinting on the edge might indicate an obivious fake. Weight difference is key...I have asked other sellers on a website about their coins (Romanian 1946 100k Lei) they do not list weights and can not (or will not say) what the weight of coin is... Buyer Beware.
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Before you get expensive lab work done on this coin--does the coin look silver? Perhaps it's just the color balance of the pictures, because it looks a lot like base-metal used in copies.
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 Posted 12/10/2012  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to show my coin for your comparison, Imasnore. Frankly, I can't see anything wrong with your coin but an underweight of four grams is enormous. Maybe you need to check your balance. My coin is weighted 25.12 grams and I am sure it is genuine. Nice lustre and silver-made.


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I agree that a 4 gram difference is significant. The other thing that concerns me is that I have seen, on several occasions, Romanian coins being sold on ebay as acknowledged reproductions (often called "medal" by the seller.) The ones I saw were not this coin, I think most of the time it was the 1941 500 Lei, but the fact that I've seen inauthentic Romanian coins of any kind from that era is sort of an indirect red flag to me. I also agree that the color makes it look like steel or some other base metal, but the color of the photo may be off.
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