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A 3CN For Your Grading Pleasure...

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I purchased this one for the little details which appealed to me: The disconnected T, barely-struck left upright of the A, and the open D and O on the obverse; the little die cracks and overall strike quality of the reverse convinced me. What's your opinion of the grade?
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Kinda odd. It has XF45 details but how does a collar wear that bad and not the design? On the reverse are those die cracks at 1, 3, 5, 8, 9, and 11 o'clock?
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Those are die cracks.

I'm thinking misaligned dies; the edge strike is strong/weak in the proper relationships between faces. At first, I was a little alarmed by the obverse weakness at 5:00, but after some study, I'm clueless.
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Now I see why the reverse sold you on the coin...I'd probably do the same thing if I was in your shoes. Good pick as that coin definitely has a story to tell.
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Just going by the book ( ANA Grading Standards) I would say the details approach AU 50...don't know if the coin has any luster. Obviously some strike problems, but the mint didn't have a lot of practice with this hard of an alloy at that time, if I understand correctly, so the strike quality may not be surprising. The obverse rim and the reverse die cracks are appealing.

Question...and not meant to be a criticism, but are the hairline scratches on the cheek signs of cleaning or normal wear, in your opinion?

I can see why you picked up this coin. Very cool.
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I'm horrible at grading circulated coins, but I'll go XF. Nice coin though.

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Question...and not meant to be a criticism, but are the hairline scratches on the cheek signs of cleaning or normal wear, in your opinion?


I have no doubt that they are circulation rub. I can see them through the loupe, in direct sunlight, but not under any other circumstances, and they're only on the cheek. There are no hairlines in the fields.

The camera, with bright light, can be a cruel teller of tales.
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Thanks, Dave, for the reply on the scratches. I'm just trying to get a better feel for this whole business. I've spent a lot of time in coin stores recently, looking over the merchandise and I think my "eye" is becoming better at discerning subtle differences in coins, but I'm not sure what it is I'm seeing.
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AU50+. Nice piece.
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AU50+. Nice piece.


I was hoping I'd hear that from you.

Conder101, on another forum, mentioned that the missing tops of the letters are hub defects, so they should be a rather common feature on this issue.
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looks about like mine(but I think mine has allot more clashing)and mine was graded MS-64 by PCGS before I cracked it out
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My instinct upon viewing it was to say XF-45 but I can see the argument from experts for going higher. The kind of coin that keeps collecting interesting...
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