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Prison-Coin #7 => 7th of 15 coins (L.Marcus Philippus)... sure, it's a wee bit worn, but it is still a sweet looking coin!! L. Marcius Philippus, AR (Silver) Denarius113-112 BC Struck 113-112 BC. ROME MINT Diameter: 19mm Weight: 3.91grams Obverse: Head of King Philip V of Macedon right wearing a diademed helmet ornamented with goat's horns, Φ below chin, ROMA (in monogram) behind Reverse: Equestrian statue right on tablet inscribed L PHILIPPVS, the horseman carrying laurel branch, flower at horse's feet, X (XVI in monogram) below Reference: Crawford 293/1, Sydenham 551, RSC I Marcia 12 Other: choice VF+/VF  ... man, you're nobody unless you have a "diademed helmet ornamented with goat's horns" Edited by stevex6
12/12/2012 07:37 am
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The equestrian statue on the reverse is probably of L. Marcius Q. f. Philippus, one of the moneyer's ancestors who concluded a treaty of friendship with Philip V.
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The XVI in monogram on the reverse is a mark of value. At the time the denarius was equivalent to 16 asses
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I love the way that they created the "ROMA-monogram" behind the King's head ... very artsy, very cool  |
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I really like this coin Jerry. Plus it's Roman.
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That's definitely a nice Roman Republic coin! You sure were busy while in prison. lol
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Hi ... thanks Ski => yup, hopefully my next few Prison-Coins will satisfy your Roman cravings!!  |
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I've really gotten into the Roman Republic coins lately. This one is too nice for you. I should take it off your hands so you can focus on your Greek coins. Whatcha think?
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Nice Roman Republic Coin Steve! Not the usual Roma/ racing chariot (forgot what that is called)  |
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This is a wonderful coin (hint: Christmas is coming). I also love that Roma. While I like the goat horns, the special thing to me here is the portrait of a foreign power from the past being displayed on the coin. The moneyer was proud of his family connection with king Philip. How would it go over today if a US President with family from the UK ordered the portrait of Queen Victoria on US coins? We see an occasional enemy of Rome shown on coins. I wonder if this choice raised any eyebrows in the day? The crossed X dates this coin to a rather short period following the change from 10 to 16 asses in a denarius. After a very short time we see some 16 as denarii once again using the plain X which meant 'denarius' rather than 'ten' in this case. Not long after that the need to mark the denomination passed and we see nothing to tell the value of the silver coins of the later Republic. You might see a parallel here in US coins that once stated the value as both One Cent and had a 1/100 (part of a dollar) just to be certain everyone understood. At the same time just how did they expect you to know the value of the earliest small silver 5 and 10 cent pieces? which remained unvalue marked through 1807? Romans and the US shared oddities in coin clarity consistency. |
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Gorgeous piece! I am envious, I am having a hankering for some Romans now!
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A lovely example of the type. I bought one myself few years ago whilst amassing a side-collection of republicans (you can never have too many side collections!). I sadly parted with the majority of them and have never found another that was a good enough replacement in my price range.
The portrait struck me as a very Romanised version Philip. Just look at the nose!
Perhaps a future smackdown subject should be "Headgear" which could exclude Laurel wreaths and Radiate crowns to solicit some of the more unusual items like these goat horns. This one would surely be a strong contender.
We Brits marked our Decimal Penny with "NEW PENNY" from 1971 through to 1981 to avoid any confusion with the old penny (which was over 10 mm larger!).
Regards,
Martin
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For those who want a slight downgrade but related coin that is easier to find may I suggest the other Philippus. Currently there is one of Steve's coin (a really nice one, though) on VCoins while there are twelve of mine ranging from great to doggy.  L. Marcius Philippus, 56 BC showing Roman king Ancus Marcius who first brought water to Rome and an ancestor of the moneyer on the reverse who repaired aqueducts a century before. This coin is a lot easier to find these days but lacks the foreign king with goat horns and the denomination mark. I assume the two moneyers were related but only assume from spacing that they were grandfather/grandson. What this coin has to offer in addition to a fanciful portrait of the old king is a picture of an aqueduct. Note the same statue of a horseman with a branch below is on both coins. I assume that the statue still stood in Rome in 56 BC. Please note the conspiracy here trying to force you to want both of these coins since each has features lacked by the other. |
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=> awesome coin ... thanks dougsmit => ummm, but the "last" thing that I need is coaxing to buy more coins!! (*sigh*)  |
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That is an amazing ROMA monogram. I do not think I would have recognized it for what it is w/out your pointing it out.
One of these days your ancient-coin-loving-influence is going to start creeping its way into my collection!
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howdy Earle ...   => there's plenty o' room over here on the shady-side of the street!! |
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mabye I should go to coin prison so I can get 15 awesome coin...  . is that how it works?  another great one! |
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