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I am overwealmingly a numismatist, but do dabble in paper money.
Question: How does the BEP differentiate star notes. By this I mean if C83814466A is spoiled and then C83814466B is spoiled...both get a C83814466*?
If this is really a stupid question, please forgive me.
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12/13/2012 10:27 am
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I can't tell from your question if you understand that the different blocks are printed a long time apart. A series will run its course on "A" block before moving on to "B" block. So roughly 100 million notes separate those two serials.

As your question is worded yes. If a sheet is damaged it is replaced with a sheet of star notes. It is possible that serial number may never exist for a series if it happened that all the sheets that number appeared on were damaged.
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OK you changed your question so I have to change my answer. The number of the star sheet is independent of the number of the original sheet. Stars have their own sequence and the number will not be the same since a star sheet is not printed to replace the serial, just the sheet.
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Thanks so much Nickelman! I learned something new today.

I always assumed if a note/sheet was damaged, the SAME serial # was replaced with a *.
So,they have ranges of serial #'s set aside to be used ONLY with *'s
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Your welcome and that is a common missunderstanding made by people so your in good company.
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Also, if the star note sheet that is replacing a damaged sheet escaped the inspectors and is also damaged (error star note), they command a strong premium over a non-star error note.
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The purpose of the star in the serial number of a replacement is somewhat anachronistic. Its purpose was to alert the first user of a pack of notes (usually someone in the banking channels) as to why the serial numbers on some of the notes in the pack may be out of sequence. If you have ever read a BEP band you will understand what this means. I doubt anyone in the banking channels would pay much attention to an out of sequence note in a fresh pack today.

If the damaged note was replaced with a note with the same serial number there would be no reason for the star in the serial number as the numbers in the pack would be in sequence.

Replacing a defective note with one of the same serial number is referred to by the BEP as the "make up" system of replacements. On small size notes the make up system was only used on Nationals. The replacements were done by hand and can be identified by the font of the numbers and the fact that they are often misaligned. The make up system was also used for the printing of Defense and War Savings Bonds but these were machine numbered.

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By the way, currency collectors are are also numismatists - not just coin collectors. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numismatics

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There are no dumb questions! I learned a lot with this post as well.
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