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1954 LWC Numerous Small Planchet Cracks

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Here is another from the 5K hoard. This is taking longer than I thought. So many pennies, so little time. I believe this is a reverse cracked planchet error. Lots going on. Look between the O & F too. Probably too small to make a value jump but I thought it was worth sharing with my friends.



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Nice lamination error.
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I don't think minor die cracks are considered errors. Fortunately what you have is not a crack but a delamination error.
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jayman931,

I never called it a die crack. Are you reading words into my type? I called it a planchet crack. But if I'm wrong about the planchet crack and it's a lamination error, that will be just fine with me. Thanks.
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Its a "Delamination Error" not a Lamination Error. And yes...when you said "Planchet Crack" I though you mean Die Crack. Oops....Plancet Cracks are very rare. Either way...Nice find.
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jayman931,

I always thought it was a 'delamination error' but I'm just using Mike Diamond's terminology. He calls them 'lamination error's' too. Is it possible both terms are correct?
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I actually have heard it used both ways. PCGS on its own website uses Delamination and Lamination.

I thought the use of Lamination was just incorrect but maybe it is accepted. I will just continue using Delamination cause it makes more sense to me due to the definition of Delamination vs Lamination.

As an engineer maybe I am just being to technical. The error is not the laminating but rather the delamination of the metal

Lamination-(it terms of metallurgy) is to "beat or roll (metal) into thin plates"

Delamination- (according to metallurgy dictionary) The separation of layers in a laminate...

http://books.google.com/books?id=ar...urgy&f=false
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What you have is a lamination error. A delamination is when a lamination flap detaches and is not on the coin anymore leaving a void.
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jayman931,

Just like in politics, if it makes sense, do the opposite. I guess an error to the lamination causing separation would technically be called a DE-lamination. This makes perfect sense. I believe in one of my earlier posts (or maybe someone else's post) It was referred to as a delamination and everybody who commented called it a lamination. I figured I was wrong and they were right.
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pyrbob,

I need an aspirin.
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lol...mds...I'll take two
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Let me add more fuel to the fire. Apparently it can also be called a Lamination Crack as per Mike Diamond. For the coin pictured above a Lamination Crack seems like a better term.

Think I need a beer to wash the asprin down :)

http://www.cointalk.com/t31673/
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I agree that delamination makes more sense to the average person. But we aren't here to rewrite the book on numismatic terms.Much easier to go with tradition.
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I don't think these smileys are laminating this cow....they are delaminating it
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