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Pillar of the Community
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I was cruising ebay for small Motto 1864 2 cent pieces and found this http://www.ebay.com/itm/1864-small-...:RTQ:US:1123I e-mailed the seller: Quote:
Sorry, but this is definitely not a small motto. You may want to consider listing this coin correctly. The response was: Quote:Read the head lines on this coin it reads 1864 SMALL MOTTO ? Two Cent PEICE Thats why I put the ? mark in the listing because I wasn't sure I feel I listed it as honest as I could and I am truly sorry you didn't understand my listing but if you will go back and read what I wrote you will see that I wasn't sure about this coin. GOD BLESS My final response: Quote:
I fully understand that you appeared to not know what you had and was attempting to help you out. Any savvy buyer will take this to an expert to get it verified and then you will be dealing with a return situation with a potential negative response. Or are you banking on taking advantage of someone's lack of knowledge? Your call - I hope you decide to do the morally correct thing.  A couple of clicks can verify it is not one. So, is this over ambitious marketing or a scammer? While I will go after scammers in a heartbeat, I kind of feel like this is a buyer beware situation and am not inclined to report it since the selling did put up good pictures that can be used to verify the large motto. Thoughts?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You've done the best you can and more than most would. Move on and let this seller reap his/her own rewards. Reporting would only work if the ebay reviewer was familiar with this series (not likely) and could verify the discrepancy. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I sent him a note also. He's definitely trying to scam.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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It's a moot point. Anyone who jumps in at that price needs to learn the lesson the hard way.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 I know that instances like this are (at least hopefully) a small minority of what goes on in ebay, but nonetheless--sellers can and do get away with this kind of "play games with language" approach and their "push it to the very edge of the envelope and then some" kind of offerings every hour of every day. Because of those kind of offerings, I feel: 1. " ebay ethics" = the biggest oxymoron in the history of the English language. 2. Stories like this are good reasons to change the name from " ebay" to "ebay." 3. I don't have that "signature" phrase below for no reason... And PLEASE--don't anybody bother to jump in and rally to the defense of the seller by saying something like "Well, hey--he was honest because after all he did put that question mark there, so that qualifies him as being honest and there's nothing wrong with that picture." Awfully sorry, but I'm just plain tired of hearing lame defenses of borderline, marginal and questionable ethics and dubious morality like that kind of reasoning. Anybody who wants to see this kind of thing as being the absolute zenith of ethics and morality is perfectly free to do so---just don't expect the rest of us who don't see it that way to join you in any chorus of support. Edited by Fat Freddy
12/20/2012 3:06 pm
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United States
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My gut feeling: any seller who lists a variety with a question mark is unlikely to be honest. If you are familiar enough with coins to know there is a variety, you ought to be able to determine whether the coin actually is the variety. The question mark is just a means of deliberately misleading people.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:You've done the best you can and more than most would. Move on and let this seller reap his/her own rewards. Reporting would only work if the ebay reviewer was familiar with this series (not likely) and could verify the discrepancy. If you started to report all the erroneous, wrongful, dumb, bad, stupid, things on ebay, you will end up spending the rest of your life and nothing will change. Move on. |
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He seems to have all positive feedback, except for a problem with one buyer and a lot of his feedback is as a buyer not a seller. One would think though , if he is savvy enough to know there is a large and a small motto type in that year and that the small motto type is worth more, then one would think he is savvy enough to be able to definitively tell the difference. A passive scam I should think. I have also found that when people end their answers to my complaints with " God Bless ", they generally " mean " two words a lot less spiritual  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I had a couple more exchanges with the seller and sent him/her the pcgs page with the difference. He/she has a 14 day return policy so I chose not to report it but am a bit disappointed that the seller chose to leave it up. Oh well, buyer beware at this point.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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How dare he give you the "god bless", like he's an honest man of virtue.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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LOL, that is exactly what went through my mind!
Edited by CoinsKelly
12/21/2012 07:39 am
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Posted 12/20/2012 12:58 pm
