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Syracuse #8 => Zeus & Eagle (Hiketas Ae)

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Syracuse #8 => Zeus & Eagle (Hiketas AE)


SICILY. SYRACUSE, AE HIKETAS
288-279 BC
Diameter: 22 mm
Weight: 8 grams
Obverse: Laureate head of young Zeus Hellanios left
Reverse: Eagle with spread wings standing left on thunderbolt. "A" in left field
Other: Good very fine

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Its a nice coin - but those two big nubs would worry me a lot! How was this kind of coin made which leaves 2 sprues opposite each other?
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Hicetas (Hiketas) was tyrant of Syracuse, during the interval between the reign of Agathocles and that of Pyrrhus. After the death of Agathocles (289 BCE)
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Some ancient coins were cast, I suppose but I don't know much about those coins at all to say.

That eagle on the reverse is nice.
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The flans were cast then the coin was struck on the cast flans

Nice Coin Steve!

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The Syracuse coin-flans were cast and therefore had casting sprues ... casting sprues on opposite ends of the diameter are often present (I personally think that is one of the many cool aspects associated with these Syracuse, Sicily coins)

=> hey, check-out this other thread of mine (it shows several other coins from Syracuse ... some have obvious sprues, some do not)

https://goccf.com/t/136368&whichpage=1





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Nice eagle, but where is the dolphin? You're slipping.
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Bing => Dolphins are "so" yesterday!! (try to stay with the program!!)

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Real nice collection of Syracuse coins your putting together stevex6!

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Dolphins are "so" yesterday!! (try to stay with the program!!)


Jerry: Just what is the program? You're like an old stagecoach scatter gun. All over the place.

The details on this eagle are fantastic. Just take a look at the leggings. Hard for me to imagine the artistic work of the engraver in the 3rd century BC.
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You're like an old stagecoach scatter gun. All over the place.



=> I call my collection "Organized Mayhem"


Yah, I have a few quasi-clusters that relate to each other:

- archaic coins (15 or 20 incuse squares)

- Syracuse-Sicily coins (8 coins)

- Dolphins (5 coins)

- Gryphons (8 coins)

- Lions (13 coins)

- Bulls (13 coins)

- Eagles/Birds (17 coins)

- Goats (7 coins)

- Wolves (3 coins)

- Boars (2 coins)

- Elephants (2 coins)

- Crocodiles and Lizards (2 coins)

- Sea Monsters and Hippocamps (2 coins)

- Dogs (3 coins)

- Turtles (1 coin)

- Scorpions (2 coins)

- Horses (10 coins)

- Snakes (3 coins)

- Stags (1 coin)

- Bees (1 coin)

- Panther (1 coin)

===>>> "ANIMAL COINS" ... that is the main theme of the "Organized Mayhem" Collection


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The amount of sprue left on these coins will depend on how perfectly the globular flan was aligned when it was struck. It is possible for the extentions to fall perfectly up and down so they will be destroyed by striking or perfectly side to side so they will show to extreme but most will fall at an angle and leave a ridge. If any are to bring question on the coin it would be the coins that have no sign of the sprue since that requires the hard to achieve up and down orientation or someone to have filed them off. This is what we call 'fabric' of a coin. Different techniques for fabricating coins leaves different signs on the finished product. What is right for one city and one time is very wrong for another. Today we assume flat and round blanks but some ancients were struck on ball bearings, some on cups with a dome on one side but not the other and some were adjusted with a file into perfection. All of these leave strange 'fabric' but the coin in doubt is the one that is not strange in the right way. That is why I wrote my Fabric page.
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I really like the eagle reverse.
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great details on both sides stevex6 nice coin.
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thanks fellas ... yup, I really like these Syracuse coins!!

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So do many.. but many can't afford them

Also, Is that green I see on the sprue?
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