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Can Anyone Help ID This Ancient? | Sept. Severus Denarius

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The coin is about .65" dia and had a silver wash on it. I think it's Roman but that's about all I know. Is there enough here to ID ruler, denomination and age?

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Here's a couple close up shots of the text

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Identified - moved to Ancients forum - Sap
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 Posted 12/21/2012  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly a Septimus Severus...
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Yep, it's a silver denarius of Septimus Severus. On the reverse is Bonus Eventus, a minor deity responsible for "good outcomes". Wildwinds example. It was struck at the eastern provincial mint of Emesa (now known as Homs, Syria) in the year 193 AD.
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Great info windchild and sap, thank you. Is the coin actually silver washed or is it silver?
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 Posted 12/22/2012  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It should be pretty solid silver - about 80% fine. I suspect the "silver wash" is from some parts of the coin requiring more aggressive cleaning.
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Thanks Sap! Me being new to ancients, would you recommend dipping the coin to try to remove the brown areas or is it best to leave it alone? A rookie question and if we were talking old U.S. coins I wouldn't even ask the question.
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Leave it alone.

Ancient coins all need to be cleaned after they're dug up out of the ground - uncleaned ancient coins tend to look like little green rocks. While there is some debate as to how best to clean ancient coins - you can see numerous threads on the subject here in the Ancients forum - once a coin has been cleaned to the point where it is identifiable, there isn't any real need to clean it further.

I'll be moving this thread to the Ancients forum now, so the Sept.Sev. experts can attribute it properly.
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RIC 369; Septimius Severus Denarius. Emesa mint, 194-195 AD. IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, laureate head right / BONI EVENTVS, Bonus Eventus standing left holding basket of fruits in right hand, grain ears in left.

Take a look at wildwinds: http://wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s6...tml#RIC_0369

Like SAP said, there are some Sep Severus experts here, but I'm not one of them. Even worn, this is a nice coin. Now you're an Ancients collector. Congratulations and welcome here.
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...IGE.... very nice coin, stick around and you will learn a lot...
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Whilst the title on this coin reads BONVS EVENTVS the deity is actually Fides. This particular mix of deity and legend is common for this type at this mint and we simply do not know why.
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Nice coin!
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Neat coin....and to the ancients...
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 Posted 12/23/2012  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info, thanks everyone for the help. 50+ years collecting coins and I never really got into ancients. Think that might change with this piece but I sure have a lot to learn about this field.

Now the big question, where is the best place to buy lower priced Romans? I'm thinking of maybe picking up one from each ruler. Don't want to sink a lot of money in these until I'm sure this is where I want to go.
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That's a realistic goal of collecting as many Roman Imperial rulers as you can. What I do is I have a grid at Tantalus coins that helps me keep track of what I have and what I don't have.

You can find a lot of coins at VCoins and ebay. Here are a few you can start with.

Constantine I
Constantine II
Constantius I
Constantius II
Valens
Constans
Valentinian I
Valentinian II
Licinius

You can learn a lot at FORVM Ancient Coins. There are a lot of beginner's articles there. Same with Doug Smith's site.

Let me know if you have any questions. I would be glad to help.
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Ancients are great! The history and the coins are very interesting! I suggest checking out wildwinds.com because you can look at thousands of coins listed by ruler, city, and etc. Have fun!:)

Oh, and keep checking out the ancient forum here. There are quite a few knowledgeable people here that can help with questions you may have:)
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Thanks Gil-galad! How prevalent are counterfeits in the lower priced coins? I'm pretty good at spotting fakes in modern but have no idea of what to look for with ancients. I don't do ebay but will check the other sites you mentioned.
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