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This was in a 2x2 graded as PF63. It was part of a larger lot so I didn't pay too much for it (unless it turns out to be fake). I am not sure if this is even a proof or not. What would you grade this? Thanks.   Edited by ray123
12/29/2012 1:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin does have somewhat of a cameo look to it but additional photos outside of the 2x2 would be needed for us to speculate as to it being proof or not.
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 I'm (maybe) seeing some visual evidence of cameo on the portraits ... and the strike appears to be bold enough to qualify as a proof. For us to offer an informed opinion we need in-focus true color photographs of the coin out of the 2x2. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Liberty nickels can be a bit tough to discern whether or not they are proof or business. I just recently dealt with this same issue on an 1899 and have handled many high grade V-nickels. My opinion on this piece is multi-faceted. Although I am looking at a picture through plastic I think that this coin does have the characteristics of being a proof. Unfortunately, this particular coin would be worth more in this condition as a business strike than a proof. There is an additional problem. Many of the really good fakes of Liberty nickels actually look more like proofs (in luster) than business strikes. This coin has me slightly worried. It may just be some distortion from the plastic, but some areas of the metal fields flow in ways I'm not liking. Also, the proof Liberty nickels were more consistent in their strike than business. Some areas of that reverse in the motto and wreath look a bit too soft to me. I said "slightly worried" because if I'm put on the spot I would call the coin true and probably give it a PF-64, but it might be worth getting it certified.
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12/29/2012 4:48 pm
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i'd like to see it out of the mylar with good lighting...
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Rest in Peace
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I agree, we need to see pictures out side of the flip.
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The coin looks like a proof but something about the graininess of the surfaces is giving me pause and it is not the frosting that I am talking about. As already mentioned by hesgut, the strike seems a bit soft in areas. So I am not sure what to say.
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Pillar of the Community
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I want to compare to a Chinese counterfeit I have but I want to see out of flip for accurate comparison...buying certain type Chinese made are great to make sure you don't a pick a loser off the bay raw
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Bedrock of the Community
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The lack of sharpness on the devices coupled with odd flat spots in the hair and an upper lip that appears to be floating in mid-air gives me doubts regarding authenticity.
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I think it is counterfeit.
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Rest in Peace
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It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. The surfaces look grainy and there is missing detail in some ares of the bust and the denticles. Most notably is what appears to be sink marks in the thick areas of the date digits.
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Pillar of the Community
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in comparing with my chinese counterfeit I see similarities in the lips and LIBERTY that make me think this is a fake coin
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dsfreeworld: Could you provide(post or provide a link) a couple of high resolution photos of your Chinese counterfeit coin? I like to see the similarities. Thanks.
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After seeing the new images and having some time to think it over, I am going to change my previous vote (which had reservation at the time). I believe this coin is a fake. The details are simply too soft. Here is a picture of a good cast fake of the same coin. This particular example doesn't have the proof-like appearance, but the quality of strike is similar.  |
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Posted 12/29/2012 1:31 pm
