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Unkown Token Or Coin? | Irish Coin Weight

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i think its brass and I think its Irish because of the harp
any info will be great,please comment
thanks!
John

Unkown-Token-Or-Coin?-|-Irish-Coin-Weight

Unkown-Token-Or-Coin?-|-Irish-Coin-Weight

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 Posted 01/04/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And you can make out IRELAND at the obv. top.
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Looks like some verdicare could help there. It says IRELAND, so its definitely ireland. 1774?
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It's an Irish coinweight, used for checking the weight of coin in a transaction. Obverse legend: THE STANDARD OF IRELAND. The number under the D stands for pennyweights, and the number under the G for grains.

http://www.irishcoinage.com/COINWT.HTM
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And the reverse legend begins with ANNO; the Roman numeral of the regnal year should follow, then the monarch's name, then the date at the top.
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Thanks guys yous are great help!!
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John was this another cheapie ebay purchase if so I would of liked to have seen it first. Love old and used. Well done
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Found this example online, which I, at first, thought looked pretty similar. A closer look at the lower quarters of the arms on the reverse, though, shows a die break angling up to the right, across the harp and Scottish lion. This coinweight was struck from the same reverse die as yours, John! The legend is more legible on this one, and appears to read ANNO REG GEORGII QUARTO 1718, or "4th year of the reign of George (the first)." That regnal number, QUARTO, and the date, are the hardest to read on yours, but I don't see how they could change them on an old die; this is almost certainly the date of your coinweight.

http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/CW.2708B.001.html
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 Posted 01/04/2013  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Johnsderry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No since I found out it was only a coinweight I lost interest in biding on it.
The sellers username is bevpub43 ,there is still over a day left and it's still £7.35 so good luck if you give it a go.Little pricey for me as I'm trying to save for some gunmoney or some early milled maundyx lol.
Good luck rooneydog
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Thanks philadelphian you are great help and I may need your help in the future when I get new coins. Btw this Is a coin I was going to buy thanks to your info I'm now going to buy a different.
Thanks!
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Well, shoot, after all this, I hope somebody here picks this one up! Preferably an Irishman, as this coinage is a true testament as to Ireland's status in the 17th and 18th centuries as a real crossroads of international trade. So many different coins of the world were being tendered in Ireland, that a merchant had to have a set of these coinweights to sort out if they were getting their money's worth. The last thing to determine on this one is what world coin of this period this coinweight was made to judge.
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