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Smackdown Xxxi - Contrasting Pairs

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 Posted 01/06/2013  7:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So we had complimentary pairs before but this time we will have pairs which are very different from eachother.

5 points bonus if the coin was aquired in the last year!

2 points if they are made from different metals!

2 points if they have more than 400 years between them!

2 points if the are from different catagories! (roman/greek/byzantine/china etc)

2 points if their sizes are more than 10mm different!

We are voting for who submits the most alluring pair...maybe one will blow you away more than the other but please vote for each contestant rather than for individual coins.

As is traditional I will post first as an example though I will be exempt.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Small silver Thrace Chernessos hemidrachm 350-400 BC

These were both aquired in the last 12 months, made of different metals, from different regions, they were produced more than 400 years apart and have more than 10mm difference in size.

Bonus points 13!

Voting will begin next saturday and terminate on sunday around midnight GMT (or whatever time I get back from work)
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01/06/2013 7:43 pm
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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A "Turkoman figural bronze". AE 29, 13.34 grams. Struck 1193 AD by
Husam al-din Yuluq Arslan, an Urtuqid of Mardin. (The city of Mardin is now in southeastern Turkey, very near Syria.)
Four full-length figures in different postures, middle one with a large head in attitude of dejection. Said to depict the mourning of the death of Saladin.

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In contrast to an AR17 siliqua (1.50 grams) of Magnus Maximus, struck summer 387 - 28 August 388 at Milan.

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Both were bought in 2012. They are made from different metals with more than 400 years between them, from different categories (Arabic/Roman), and more than 10 mm different in size.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first coin is a Chinese cast coin from The Qin Dynasty circa 221-207 BC, This coin is from the earlier period. The emperor Qin was the first true emperor of China.

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The next coin is a Byzantine Billon Trachy of the Emperor Manuel I 1143-1180, Sear# 1966. It is almost 1000 years younger than the first coin.



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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool idea for a smackdown! How much time do we have to submit?
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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since I don't do competitions I guess I should not give opinions but I'd require/reward something that would make the two a pair in some way even though the two difffered in all those bonus point ways. For example, the coin below paired with David UK's wonderful Byzantine would get all the same bonus points for size, date and metal but they share a big link: Kyzikos mint.

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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a bad idea Doug but since there have already been submissions I don't want to move the goalposts... also there are plenty of bonus points available as is.

If your coins have a coomon link or theme point it out though ^^

Entries in before midnight GMT on saturday please :)

Interesting choices so far ^^
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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the smackdown David!
#1 Thrace, Cherronesos AR hemidrachm, 400-350 BC
Rev: Bee, Size: 13 mm, weight: 2.35g
Bought 3 Mar 2012

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#2 RIC VI 59. Licinius AE Follis. 312-313 AD. IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG, laureate, cuirassed bust right / IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG NN, Jupiter standing facing, head left, chlamys hanging from left shoulder, holding Victory on globe & leaning on sceptre, eagle with wreath left. Known mintmarks: dot TS dot G dot and dot TS dot D dot.
Size: max diameter 24mm, weight: 3.64gr
Bought 17 Oct 2011

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 Posted 01/06/2013  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two coins that I have that contrast the most is from the destruction of the Islamic Empire of Khwarezm, by the Nomadic Mongols lead by The Great Conquer of Asia Genghis Khan. Both coins are very rare. The first naming the Shah of Khwarezm and the second naming Genghis Khan. Both coins are very different in style and Calligraphy. Both are of different metals. One coin comes from the end of an era and the other from the beginning of the new one. The second was struck just after the first, the second continued in circulation until the death of Genghis Khan.

Both were bought in 2012
Both are of different metals
Both are of very different sizes
POINTS POINTS POINTS

Coin #1
Khwarezm Imperial Dirham 31mm X 7.45 grams.

A very large coin demostrating the power and sophistication of the The Empire of Khwarezm. Naming the Sultan of the Empire.
Struck. 1200-1206 AD
OBV.Al-Sultan in the center, Mohamed and additional inscriptions (al-Sultan al-azam... the rest unread) in the margins
REV. Mohamed Bin Takesh in a monogram in the center, additional inscriptions (presumably mint and date) in the margins.

Mint of Balkh, Afghanistan.
REF. MWOI 910.
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Coin#2
Billon Jital of Temujin (The Great Genghis Khan) 17mm x 4.28 grams

A very small and thick coin naming Genghis Khan and his Puppet Wazir used inside and outside the confines of the destroyed Khwarezm cities.
Struck 1206-1227
OBV. Al-Nasir Ud-din Allah amir al-muminin
REV. Adl Khaqan al-Azam (coin of the Great Khan)
Mint of Ghazna, Afghanistan
REF: Tye 329; SICA 9, 1008; Nyamaa 5; Album 1969.
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01/06/2013 11:04 pm
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 Posted 01/07/2013  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malamute67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My coins....
Trajan AS(31/12/2012)28mm
RIC 434 Trajan AE As. IMP CAES NERVA TRAIAN AVG GERM P M, laureate head right / TR POT COS IIII P P, Victory walking left, carrying shield inscribed S P/Q R. Cohen 640.(100/102)

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Sisebuto TREMISSIS (07/11/2012)[17mm]
King of visgoths (612/621)Hispalis(Spain)


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 Posted 01/07/2013  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow--these are some really cool contrasts! Hope to see more!
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 Posted 01/07/2013  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thasos, Thrace, Silver Tetradrachm
Obv:- " Head of a youthful Dionysos to right, wearing elaborate ivy wreath with leaves and berries
Rev:- " HRAKLEOVS SWTEROS, Youthful Herakles, nude but for drapery over his shoulder and let arm, standing facing, his head to left, holding a club in his right hand and resting his left at his waist; QASIWN in exergue
Minted in Thasos, Thrace. After 148 B.C.
Reference:- " SNG Cop.1040
Size 31mm

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Maximianus Herculius, Antoninianus
Obv:- " IMP C MAXIMIANVS P AVG, Radiate, helmeted cuirassed bust right
Rev:- " VIRTVTI AVGG, Hercules, standing right, with club thrown behind him, wrestling Nemean lion
Minted in Lugdunum (No marks). Emission 5. Officina 3. Autumn A.D. 287 - " Autumn A.D. 289
Reference:- " Cohen 647. Bastien Volume VII 218. RIC V Pt. 2 458 (Rated Scarce)
Size 20.5 mm

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Coins linked through a theme of Herakles/Hercules.

Thasos coin bought this week. Arrived this morning! Max. Herc. bought a couple of years ago.
Silver Tetradrachm vs Bronze, silvered antoninianus
148 B.C. vs A.D. 287
Greek vs Roman
31 mm vs 20.5 mm

Martin
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 Posted 01/07/2013  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look Martin on your second coin Hercules is tired from swinging that club for all them years...he just dropped it ahahah. Great coins.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how about these,
UGLY campgate...


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constantine i, thessalonica ric vii 154


SEXY campgate...

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constantine ii, heraclea mint
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 Posted 01/08/2013  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been noticing on a couple of entrant one coin was purchased in the last 12 months and the other was not. In these cases I guess 2 bonus points are in order rather than 5 (which I meant if both coins were inside 12 months, but I wrote it unclearly and ungrammatically)
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 Posted 01/08/2013  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Ok, been way to busy..
5pts..both purchased 2012.
2pts. different metals.
2pts.. over 4 hundred yrs. between.
2pts not greek or Roman..
2pts. over 10mm different in size..

Now to the coins..

Sassanian..591 - 628 AD..
Khusru ll
Silver..
31mm x 4.11g..



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Herod Agrippa l
AE Prutah..
Ob. ( of king Agrippa) umbrella like canopy with fringes..
Rev.Flanks three ears of barley and leaves.
( Year 6)..41 - 2 AD.
2.68g x 17mm
Mint..Jerusalem..
Hendin 1244



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