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How To Legally Own Illegal Coins?

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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add greenprint to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok look here big boy.

I would like to know how to legally own a coin that wasn't meant to be put into public.

Could someone just like move to a different country. Like if you come into possession of a 33 double eagle or 64 silver dollar or whatever... or maybe perhaps you come into possession of of some of the test coins that they used in testing new alloys over the last couple of years to try and use less expensive metals...

Could you just like move to China? Could you just like wait for the United States to collapse? Once the country no longer exists could you legally own the coins?

Ok thanks.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It wouldnt be worth it but youd have to smuggle them out and live in a country that doesn't honor extraditions to the US and most likely will be a US enemy that wouldnt ever allow a US presence on their soil. Iran and North Korea would be your best bets.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here we go...how ya gonna get rich on this one Greenprint....
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DEFINITELY move to China. Best to do it soon, before you get caught, too!
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't try to leave the country with it.
Just move to China.
They will make one for you.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Once they are on "The List", I do not see a way around it. My issue is the selective nature that a coin is called illegal. The Sac/Washington mules and no letter edge $1 were illegally made and illegally left the mint but somehow did not make "The List", so they are legal.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try mixing it into a roll of other common date double eagles, then mail it to a relative in North Korea. :)
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Or bribe an official, that always works too.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not illegal to own fake coins.
However if a genuine pattern was illegally released from the Mint, it follows that it would be illegal to own it.
Nevertheless legal counsel loves to argue this matter to it's own profit, on some coins which should never have left the Mint.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why move to China when you can rent Ted Kaczynski's shack and live the life of luxury?
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 Posted 01/13/2013  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say I was worried I might have that same problem with a "coin" in my collection. The coin in question is a Chatham Islands $50.00 piece. For the mellenium the Chatham Islands was allowed by the Reserve bank of New Zealnd to produce some Bank notes ( on the priviso they were just fantasy notes) but they went to far and produced some coins.....The Reserve Bank on finding out confiscated the offending coins and only a maximum of 20-50 escaped into collectors hands. I was one of the lucky ones...but I was worried that it might be confiscated however after some inquiries I was advised that the Reserve bank was not overly concerned about the remainder. Seems the NZ GVT is a little more flexible than the US.
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Uh, don't mention or show them to anyone. Then legality does not matter.

Or you could send them to the mint and ask them.
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Monte Video convention says any man can declare a country so long as he owns the land. Heck, I have been a sovereign ruler of a small country for a few minutes. But be careful, I'm guessing the army doesn't take kindly to people annexing land. And for your independence,you'll need a farm and you'll need a good way to get people to recognise you - look up the Hut River Province, they became a bona fide country due to a slip of the tongue.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Make a image of it and then leak it to Wiki-LEAKS!

Then bury it next to Jimmy Hoffa for safe keeping!
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Don't tell anyone and you're golden. Oops.
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 Posted 01/14/2013  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The Sac/Washington mules and no letter edge $1 were illegally made and illegally left the mint but somehow did not make "The List", so they are legal.

Not quite. The Sac mules that could be shown to have been recovered from circulation were determined to be legal to own, but the ones smuggled out by the mint employees were declared not legal and I believe the government ordered them to be returned. So some are legal and some are not.
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