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US Mint Increasing Prices On Some Silver Products

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I saw that today it was reported that the mint has published product increases in the Federal Register. These increases will affect the ATB 5 ounce, the ASE Proof, and the ASE Uncirculated coins.

I was on the fence about continuing my collection of the 5 ouncer, and with the latest increase for these ASE's I will definitely cut back on the scale that I was purchasing at. Maybe 1 or 2 less.

The today's closing price of silver was $31.59. With the increases mentioned in the article the value of the 5 ounce coin is $49 per ounce. The new price on the this coin will be $245 with the ASE Proof at $63. So we can now purchase the ATB Silver 5 ounce cheaper than will be able to get the ASE Proof.

I don't understand the rationale behind what the mint is doing. It seems that they are increasing the sale price because they can and also to anticipate any future price increases in raw material.

Only a monopoly can operate this way. If the market would reflect the mint's pricing policy I would be more than happy.


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 Posted 01/16/2013  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here we go again, silver prices are down and Mint raises prices. I have stopped ordering from them and buy what I want in the secondary market, usually at a cheaper price.
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Ummmmm, 31.59 is not down. It's the range it has been. It spiked at 34 a couple few weeks ago, but that's all. They are raising the prices on numismatic products, not the "bullion" stuff. That tells me they see a limited minting for this year. Considering the rate silver is being used up, I understand. More people are buying more silver now than ever before. I have seen estimates that the worlds silver reserves will be sucked up in the next ten years or so. Again, I can believe that.

The proof and unc coins are collectors coins. They are attaching a collectors premium. There isn't a single mint out there that isn't tacking on premiums to their coins. I really don't have a problem with the pricing. They increased it a few bucks. If you figure how much the dollar has been depreciated by the current administration, you are paying about the same.
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They can raise prices, umm, because they can. They have cut the max on many of the 2012 products and expect the same for 2013. Cyclically they are in the pare down phase again.
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The real point of my concern was told in the coinweek article. Although this may sound like a takeoff on some political point (which it isn't) is why increase a selling price on a product whose sales volume appears to be stagnant at best and losing ground at the worst that will have a negative impact on returns.

The mint is appearing to me to be increasing sales prices in order to increase the seignorage (spelling) when the product decisions (coinage) that were made by congress is going against its own best interest.

Case in point is the decision to no longer release the presidential and native american coins in circulation but to rely upon collectors to bring the product profit into the treasury. According to commentary on the Mint's report to congress this did lead to decrease return to the government. To my mind increasing premiums on a slow selling product (5 oz. ATB coin) is not a tried and proved way to increase profits but to hasten the decline and possible death of a product line. But then as customer my only means of voicing displeasure is to do what IndianGoldEagle said.
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Im not convinced that the mint doesn't want the P pucks to be killed with how the sales numbers have been on a downward slope for a while. I like the idea of the pucks, but theyve been so mismanaged
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I figure silver will be upto a minimum of $40 an OZ by the end of summer...

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I hope you are right but the trend is for it to remain in the $30-34 range for the year..It has shown no interest in breaching that $35 price for very long
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