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Attica Athens Addition

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 Posted 01/16/2013  11:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
While at the FUN show, I fondled and played with several Attica Athens "Owl" Tets, but I couldn't make myself spend the money. After coming home, I contacted one of the dealers I had purchased from at the show and she gave me a very good price on this coin. I finally own an Owl Tet! :

Attica-Athens-Addition

ATTICA ATHENS AR Tetradrachm SNG Cop 31, struck 449 BC
OBV: Helmeted head of Athena right, in crested Attic helmet decorated with three olive leaves over visor & a spiral palmette on the bowl
REV: AQE, owl standing right, head facing; olive sprig & crescent behind
16.9g, 22mm
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 Posted 01/16/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


jw, you you, very nice coin, little rub, but great detail, some day my coin too!...
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 Posted 01/16/2013  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on your first owl tet! Nice example and good weight too--the intermediate style often run lower weight.
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 Posted 01/16/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gorgeous coin. Hands down. A full weight ancient standard and the coin of coins. I wonder about the date given in the attribution. I was with the understanding that the profile "or pie" didn't come into use until after about 404 BC. I would think that the coin of that date would have the straight on view (archaic eye)? ?Interesting...a gorgeous coin to say the least similar to mine. NGC dated 393-264BC

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 Posted 01/16/2013  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the attribution of the dealer I bought it from. I'm uncertain as to how to attribute these Tets. I know there are the archaic and the intermediary. But other than the almond shaped eye, I do not know what distinguishes one from the other. I will defer to you and others on this forum. If the attribution is in correct, please help a fellow out and give me the correct attribution. Thanks for the comments. It took everything I had to make myself buy this coin. Now I need to get back to my first love - Roman coins.
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 Posted 01/17/2013  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are such great looking coins!
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now that is pretty darn cool...good for you jw!
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Owl Tet!


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I would call the OP coin a late Intermediate closer to 300 BC than any other round number. The 449 date probably comes from that separating the Archaic and Early Classical (3 prong tail) coins from the common Classical ones. The OP is a pretty nice example IMHO unless you discount it for wear. A lot of them have centering problems. I once had a friend (long gone now) who specialized in owls but would not consider buying a coin where the nose was even touched by the edge of the flan. He had over a hundred variations all selected for nice faces and good strikes.
http://athenianowlcoins.reidgold.com/
If you care enough to read a bit, this site will tell you what you want to know. I don't agree with everything Reid says but probably 99% when it comes to owls. You guys have driven the price of them to a point that I am sure every one I buy will be the last. There are a million of them available to collectors and absolutely no reason to pay big money for poor coins but demand from people who have no ancients remains high and the best styles in high grade are certainly over $1000 now. We don't even see that many of the really nice early ones anymore. I wonder who is buying them all?
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01/17/2013 07:17 am
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 Posted 01/17/2013  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Doug. That's what I needed. Oh, and BTW, thanks for the tip on the dealer at the show. She has proven her worth. She said anyone who knows you will get a 10% hike in price .
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She needs to get at least 10% to compensate for all the coins she gave me for way less than she thought they were worth. Here is a sad and serious fact folks. Those of you who hang around here and actually read/understand posts and links provided by some of the regulars (Warren, Martin and several others) probably know more about ancient coins than a few of the newer dealers out there who have little time to study while they are travelling from coin show to coin show trying to make a living out of these things. I'm not saying that you are ready to apply for a job at CNG or set yourself up as a third party slabber but you can not assume that someone who is a dealer and offers good services is going to be a fount of information on each and every coin they stock. There are many dealers out there who are 'better than a book' but most of them do sell coins for more than many of us prefer to pay. I'm glad Bing liked my reference and I wish I knew dealers to recommend living everywhere across the country but that is not the case. I wonder if any of our younger members will be getting jobs in the hobby in another decade? It would be nice to know someone younger than I am that I could tell my grandson to contact when he is ready to dispose of my coins.
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REally nice coin Bing. You are starting to build a nice collection of Greeks.
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Very nice coin!
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Great coin Bing!

I was looking a couple of these at nyinc that were more worn than yours with some test cuts selling for $750+; I passed;) O well the hunt goes on:)
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