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2011-D Vicksburg Quarter On Proof Planchet

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I just found a 2011-D Vicksburg quarter which appears to be on a proof planchet. Has anyone seen or heard of one before? I noticed it because the background is much more shiny than a normal business strike and the reeded edge is more squareish like a proof coin. It is definitely cupra-nickel and not silver. Would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions on how to verify this coin. Thanks!
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Posting a picture would help some of the resident experts on here.
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Yup... ...pics needed.
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It probably isn't struck on a proof planchet, but may have proof-like surfaces. Also, a sqaured off reeding has little to do with the original planchet unless there is a difference in hardness.
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I have seen some stunningly proof like D mint ATBs. My guess would be you have one like that. Post pics!
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I think first you have to question what were proof planchets doing in the Denver Mint ?
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San Francisco ships rejected proof planchets to Denver for use in business strike production.
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Still? I thought that was a practice long gone.
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Thank you for the inputs. I'll try to get a pic on for further evaluation. I was wondering, also, how a proof planchet got to Denver. Does anyone else know whether SF is still sending their Proof planchet rejects to Denver?
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I've found three Acadia-D Quarters and a 2012-D Dime that could be Proof planchets.
The Dime seems to have a slight frost effect on the devices (looking somewhat like a pre-1980 Proof).
The Quarters have no frost effect.
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Frost effect on proofs comes from the die not the planchets.

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I did say "slight", and it's nothing like the frost effect seen on 1980's-up Proofs (especially not like the grainy 2009-up frosting as you'd see on a 2012-S Proof Dime).

In hand, it looks like my Airtited 1969-S Dime.

In the Morgan days, many of the business strike coins struck with fresh dies were Prooflike, the best examples being DMPL, and a few of those had a natural frost effect on the devices.

My Dime could thus be a new (business strike, for sure!) die striking a rejected Proof planchet.

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