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I bought three Mercury dimes at a coin show today for my 1934 - 1945 Mercury dime Capital Plastics holder. I now have 12 of the 35 dimes in this set.

Full Split Bands - fully rounded and separated bands at the center of the fasces (The top and bottom sets of bands are typically fully rounded and separated on all issues of the Mercury dimes).

Split Bands - flat but fully separated bands at the center of the fasces.

1937-D Choice BU full split bands

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1938-S, Choice BU full split bands. The reverse is a wee bit out of focus but you can still see the full separation of the center bands.


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1945 Choice BU 90% Split Bands. The 1945 Philadelphia Mint Mercury dime is one of the hardest of the Mercury dimes to find with full split bands. This dime I acquired today is as close to having full split bands you will ever find and not be completely there. Anyone care to guess what I paid for this one?


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 Posted 01/26/2013  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ed, you sure that 45P wouldn't make split bands..under the special rules for 45 only? Beautiful coins
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jmkendall, I was not aware of any special rules for the split bands on the 1945 dime and apparently the dealer I bought it from didn't know of any special rules for it also.

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Very nice dimes there Ed.

Excellent purchases.

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It much harder to find a FSB's with early dates. If you are lucky enough to find such a coin, you will notice that the OBVERSE is sharply struck as well.
I can't remember ever seeing a FSB Mercury that has sharp obverse detail, with a late date.
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Beautiful coins!
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Beautiful coins!
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Those are sweet looking dimes
I bet you paid $18 for that 1945 and if I were you I'd send that to pcgs or ngc and keep your fingers crossed...it's worth a shot with that one
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Ed, I don't think there are "official" exceptions for 45P, but I do know in practice they take into account the typical strike of the particular series, year, and mint. If that were a "D" from any of the 40s, no way would it be graded split bands. But I have seen other 45P, some on these pages, that were like yours graded as FSB. Waiting to see what the Capt and Mac have to say.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Great group of Mercury dimes Ed.
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Waiting to see what the Capt and Mac have to say.


These two are probably the most knowledgeable members of this forum that I know of and I'm sure they will find this thread soon enough and look forward to their comments.

Here is a much closer image of the center bands. This image is the one that shows just how close this dime is to having full split bands.

When the dealer I called over a week ago to inquire what Mercury dimes he had he told me he had this coin. He said it has in his estimation 90% split bands. I told I definitely wanted it without even seeing the coin. I met him at a club show yesterday and when I saw the coin in hand I didn't even quibble about his price of $100.00. I don't care what people may think but, to get this kind of detail on those center bands on the back of a 1945 Philly is well worth it to me.

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@Gyrene7483, Nice group of Mercury dimes!

I bought a 45-P from SuperDave few months back, and have the reverse strike like your 45-P, depending on different angle when viewing, at some point it look like FB, but then at another angle its definitely lacking it. I believe that when you're viewing at various angles, if you don't notice the splits, then I don't think it would get a FB designation.

NGC and PCGS are reluctant to give FB easily for this date, unless is 100% fully split in their standard, but then again, looking at some of past auction at Heritage PCGS graded 45-P FB dime , I have to think twice how it pass the FB designation for 2 of them. Standard changes yearly? Perhaps at different point of time it loosen up. All that being said I think this one lack FB, it is though near 90% split band, sorry if my opinion isn't what you're expecting.
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This is the con macmercury is talking about:

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Yours is just as close, Ed, if not closer.
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Thank you macmercury and SsuperDdave for your comments and photos.

Perhaps PCGS was being generous in their assessment of those two dimes because of how rare true split bands examples are for this date and decided they were "close enough" for the dealers who submitted them. Certain coin dealers, I'm sure, are getting the better grade for their submissions if the coin is close but not quite there.

I bought the coin as a 90% split bands and have no intentions of ever having it slabbed. I thought the price he asked for it was fair for what it is, I have seen another not quite as defined as this one for sale at $225.00 online, not on ebay. It is now resting in my Capital Plastics 1934-45 Mercury dime set holder.

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You'd have to add a zero and then some to do any better.
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