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1892-O VAM15 Or 15A

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 Posted 01/26/2013  8:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can someone please explain the difference between a 1892-O VAM15 and a 15a. My coin looks like it's a 15a because the lines are quite heavy and continue through the O, but lose their heaviness somewhat once they enter the O. Very heavy through the D. As some of you know I can't post photos. Sorry! Any help with this issue would be appreciated.
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 Posted 01/26/2013  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I share your confusion. They appear to be one in the same.
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 Posted 01/27/2013  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aw c'mon guys. The silence is deafening. This is one of the only VAMs I've been able to see with my naked eye and is different from the hard to see without a loupe doubling type VAM. As described in VAM world, 15 and 15a appear to be one in the same? Please help!
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I read the description & the only difference I found was the 15a has heavy horizontal die gouge lines through DO in DOLLAR.

I hope that helps.
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Yes, my coin has 4 HEAVY (visible to the naked eye) gouges. But it seems in the description of VAM-15 that they list these gouges as an afterthought in the description and in the 15a as an attribution. One in the same?
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But it seems in the description of VAM-15 that they list these gouges as an afterthought in the description and in the 15a as an attribution. One in the same?


15 was found first, and 15A was later separated from it by the presence of those lines. Oftimes at VAMworld, the original detail page copy is not appropriately altered to indicate that a sub-VAM was separated from it. If you have those lines, you have 15A.
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 Posted 01/27/2013  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
THANKS SUPERDAVE! You cleared it up for me. That's kind of what I thought. Have a good one!.....Cheers, Erik
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I should have also said, I picked this up yesterday, it was in a NGC MS61 slob. I bought it because it looks 62+ and I am an absolute freak for 1889-O through 1892-O's.
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I'm guessing you found one with an above average strike?
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If 1893S thinks it's undergraded, it's probably a 66. He's a brutal grader, in the best sense of the word.
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Idle note: ANACS only has three of these, the sole 15A in 62 being the finest and two VAM-15's. By no means definitive, though.
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dave700x-The strike was average+ but by no means choice, the breast feathers could be seen by tilting the coin from side to side, luster was very good and there were no deep hits. But a small amount of scattered bags. Not a 63 though. Got it yesterday through my partner who had just acquired it last week. I just love the hunt for 92-O's in good condition. My partner knows this and when he finds them they're mine.

SDAVE....As always thanks for the help,
i know I probably don't deserve it sometimes. Cheers you guys, Erik
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