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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by halfabustisbetter 04/19/2007 9:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I certainly don't want you to take offense, but I would like to learn as well. Isn't this just a bad "press job"? That's what it looks like to me. Someone put two coins into a pretty strong press of some type and just squeezed away. I would assume a double strike would have the same features, but the second set of details is depressed, not raised. I am far from an expert on any coin, so hoefully I am wrong here. 
Edited by tights24 04/19/2007 7:55 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Sure, I'll buy that and it's not possible to offend me, I'm way too old and stupid to be offended by anything...
How much pressure would it take to make something like this? Do you think it is something that was done in a home workshop?
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If the dates were the same I'd say a possible mint error but.... If one were to tape 2 coins together and place them on train tracks it will produce a similar effect without elongating the coins. Not that I have ever done such a terrible illegal thing in my life. 
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Wow, I didn't know that was possible, I thought a train would always elongate because of how the pressure was applied. Great stuff to know.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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the thing usually used is some sort of vice to squeeze them together
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Pillar of the Community
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quote: How much pressure would it take to make something like this?
Not sure. Your example has quite a deep depression, but I can't say that I ever tried it on any type of vise. I would tend to doubt that your typical garage workbench vise would do this. Usually only a 7 or 8 inch handle to grab. Maybe with some sort of breaker bar for more leverage. But, if you put this into an end mill vise, you would probably have more than enough pressure. They have a much stronger ratio for squeezing to ridiculous amounts of force without exerting too much pressure on the handle. Does that make sense?
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Pillar of the Community
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OK, I'm visualizing it much better now. I set another penny inside this one, and I can see a mill vise exerting the proper pressure, but I'm going to have to get out a few pennies and do some Mythbusting over the weekend....
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Pillar of the Community
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quote: but I'm going to have to get out a few pennies and do some Mythbusting over the weekend....
lolol. Let us know how you make out.
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Pillar of the Community
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A hammer does the same thing. Incuse and reversed letters are impossible in the minting process.
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Pillar of the Community
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Hydraulic Press would do the trick. Get a couple of guys together in a machine shop, a few cents in their pockets, and the burning question "what do you think would happen if....."
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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certainly if a whack from a hammer will do the job a regular workbench vice should do it also, atleast I would think it should
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 My brother and I used to do this all the time! I think maybe you found one of my old coins!  We did it with a hammer out on the side walk. It didn't always work this well, but if we used a small sledge hammer and got a direct hit it turned out exactly like this coin. You've brought back fond memories of my destrucktive years. 
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