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I'm no expert, but this grade looks suspect to me. What do you guys think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-CC-1-M...em3a7dfbccd3
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Before I looked at the photo with the grade I thought 62 or 63. But I never thought 65. Is it because of it being a CC that it gets a break on the grade?
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If they give it a better grade than it is, just because it is a cc. I would say that TPG's aren't all that reliable. That's why I think cracking out coins from these unreliable sources should not be frowned upon.
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I don't know. Everything you see on the cheek is going to be far less consequential to the naked eye - that's only slight breaks in the frost, much like you see on the leaves to the right. The fields are pretty much pristine beside the stuff below the chin; only the marks on the neck are "true" marks, and those are the only marks on the whole coin. Nice fields are huge with Morgans. The reverse is 66 all day.

I can see this one making 65 in hand. Don't forget how harsh digital photography is on coins.
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I agree that it is a very nice coin. My point is that there are many inconsistencies in grading.
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You gotta love that frosting.
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My point is that there are many inconsistencies in grading.


You're absolutely correct. I'm just not sure this one is the poster child for that statement, because it's what I expect a righteous MS65 coin to look like under digital photography.
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Someone loved it enough to pay over 400 for it. I bought one just like this a few weeks ago for 170. It was a VAM 4b die cracked E spiked date exactly like this one in a GSA holder. This guy paid 200 plus dollars more for the same thing.
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Which is about its' worth in 65. The buyer has over 3,000 Feedbacks (and no prior record with this seller), and the majority of his purchases appear to be Dollars. I'd call this one an informed purchase.
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That's good news. I stand to profit 200 dollars on my purchase.
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You got an MS65 for $170? That would be a big score; $170 is cheap for a 63.
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There's been allot of good deals on 1884 cc GSA dollars lately on ebay.
The one I bought has not been graded. I would say compared to this one it is at least MS 64, maybe 65 if this one is 65.
I put it on here in a topic for 1884 VAM questions a while ago.
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The flood of 1884cc might be why the prices are a little lower right now. Here's a great one with clean fields selling right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884cc-GSA-...em27cf4d945c
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Here's a great one with clean fields selling right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884cc-GSA-...em27cf4d945c


That's a nice one on the obverse but there's no way to have an opinion of the reverse. I expect to see it go for 64 money, maybe better. But this is ebay, home of the bidding frenzy - an NGC-certified 64 in the GSA holder is only about a $225 coin.

If you can get full-face images, I'd like to see your CC coin in a grading thread.
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I'll put it in when I can get my wife to take some more pics of it. I can't work her camera no matter how hard I try.
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