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I don't want to tarnish my rep on the first day here but could you have a look at this small silver medal - I know it is hallmarked Birmingham England 1911 - but the subject has me beat - is it for India? what could R.M.A.C.C be?

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A. C. C. frequently stands for Army Cadet Corps. The motto is that of, among others, Winchester College and New College Oxford.
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seems strange that they would have that aspect of the globe showing - rather than the UK in the middle - us brits are the center of the world dontcha know :)
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That was the motto of those two institutions because they were both founded by William of Wyckham, Bishop of Winchester, who used "Manners Makyth Man" as his personal motto.
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The hallmarks probably indicate Birmingham silversmith Arthur Fenwick, who made a number of medals. The final cartouche has the date letter, "w" (?) For 1896?
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I dont think it is quite that old, here is a close up of the hallmark

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Hmm, maybe more like an "m"
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The map is centred on India - so I agree that that is probably a clue.
The representation of Australia won't get any prizes !

The soldier is wearing a slouch hat (or similar), a bandolier, and puttees.
Slouch hats were worn by Australians, but I have seen plenty of pics of Ghurkas wearing them.
The puttees suggest infantry. Cavalry tended to wear leggings.
He is carrying a rifle, with what appears to be a long-lever, and no box-magazine.
So, I'm thinking Martini. They were in use in the late 1800s, but were soon overtaken by the Lee.

I don't know much about artillery, and I can't see any clues there.
I can't see any other accoutrements on the soldier. His uniform is the generic "Service Dress" worn throughout the British Empire from the late 1800s, until after WW1.

So, my best guess is that this is some sort of reward or recognition, for presentation to troops in India;
possibly to a Ghurka Regiment, of which the British employed several.

The letters RMACC have me stumped.


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