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Prettiest US Coin - A Curmudgeon's View

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I read through this topic, now 3 pages or more back, and decided to join the forum. Rather than bring it up to the top again, I'll start a new thread. It's a subject I've been interested in for the last 40 years.

Before beginning the beauty contest, here are my rules:

1. Size. If I can't read LIBERTY without a magnifying glass, the coin is too small. Since my eyes have gotten weaker over the last 40 years, this rules out anything smaller than a quarter. Despite their good designs I exclude Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels and incuse gold Indians.

2. Represent. Liberty has to look the part. This excludes Morgan's hefty beauty, as well as the 20th century statues on the SLQ and the St. Gaudens (both of which remind me of a manatee, if it were capable of standing).

3. Age appropriate appearance. A coin is money first and foremost, and that's a part of the beauty. If it didn't circulate, or its appearance is altered, it's not a coin. It's a medallion. This rule excludes mint state coins, commemoratives, polished, dipped and damaged coins. My ideal is a coin which shows all its devices (usually VF-AU), but which also shows grime and tarnish from age. Generally it takes pre-1935 mintage to develop this appearance.

And here are my winners:

1. 1793-95 large cents. These are the best of the best. A lean Liberty, face to the wind with her hair streaming behind. A defiant liberty pole set like a spear, topped with the flag-like liberty cap. On the reverse a crude wreath (or even better on the 1793, a linked chain). Money created ex-nihilo in the form of a CENT. You get the effect as a silhouette even on a G, but it looks best on a chocolate-toned F or better.

2. Well-struck Peace dollars. Almost as good as the cent. Liberty has the same wild untamed hair, with a facial expression of gasping surprise. The key is finding coins with well-defined hair above the ear, with a little oxidation and grime to make the hair stand out. The best appearance is on a fully-struck 1921, with the deep dish-like relief, but impressive examples are found more easily on 1925-P and 1926-P in XF-AU. The surface is important to the coin's look: it is hard to see the hair detail on a "blast white" specimen. And if it's not very sharply struck, Liberty looks like she has a bad perm and the mumps. Oftentimes MS67's look no better than a VF on this coin.

3. 1916-1921 Walkers. The most dynamic Liberty, striding confidently like Marianne on the French coins. The deep-dish of the early dates sets her off well. On the reverse the best of American eagles. You need a grimy VF or better to mske the intricate feather detail stand out.

4. 1907 NM $10 Indian. The warbonnet, and the surprised look on Liberty's face, and the font used for the date, do it for me. But what I really like is the tall reverse rim, not seen on the later dates. It creates a sense of depth and shelter, especially at the top of the coin.

These are not necessarily my favorite coins, for which I have a few more criteria, but many of them are near the top of the list. It's a lot easier to like a coin if it's pretty.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Welcome to Coin Community, curm...um, thq.

Your post brought a smile to my face, and satisfaction to my heart. Although different from mine, your opinions are well thought out and eloquently presented, and therefore inarguable. That's the beauty of our hobby - so much wondrous variety in design allows greatly differing aesthetic tastes to be satisfied while still maintaining a solid common interest.

I tend to cycle coins through my computer desk, to accompany me while I wander the Internet. One, Un Ultime Franc, is a permanent fixture. Currently, it is accompanied by a Proof 1887 British Florin, an 1831 Bust Half in about EF, and an AU58 1892 Barber dime just back from PCGS. All of them were purchased purely for their visual appeal, and all are probably exactly in opposition to your personal tastes.

Yet, when I read your words I still see a kindred spirit. It's a wonderful thing.
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Welcome to our CC family!

What a great post! Put a great big smile on my face!

I agree with you on the large cents and most of your other choices (though I've never been partial to Peace dollars), however, I think the most beautiful coin would have to be the early bust halves, followed closely by the capped bust halves. These coins actually get more attractive as they wear and I find these to be the most attractive in VF condition.
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I love the appearance of the Indian Head cents. Liberty's oh-so-slight smile, and the beautiful headdress she's wearing (while proudly displaying 'LIBERTY' on the headband) do it for me.
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 Posted 04/21/2007  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome

I have one criterium in common with you
If I sneeze and it blows away it is too small
So for practical purposes 0.20 ounce is the smallest
I will buy ( That is a typical Latin Union size at 0.900 gold
it will be 5.8 grams of pure gold commonly called a 20 Francs in the french speaking countries of the Latin Union including the Vreneli
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Thank you all for your kind words. This looks like a pretty good forum. I hope I can contribute something useful.

Susanlynn, I agree with you 99.9% of the time about Peace dollars. It's a subtle design and easy to spoil. But oh that 0.1%!

TimJing and ageka I like Indian cents and other small coins. I think $2-1/2 Liberties are extremely underrated right now, especially early S mints and low mintage P's. However the Indian cent is the classic case (for me) of having to use a magnifying glass to read LIBERTY. For years I thought I had a G, but one day I got out the glass and found out it was an F.

SuperDave (my favorite SuperDave line: "Don't bother taking me to the hospital - just go straight to the cemetary") and ageka, my current favorite foreign coin is an 1865 Finnish 2 Markkaa, with the big Russian crest. But as far as non-US coins go I concur with Svejk: "Humbly report sir, I'm a complete idiot."
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Nice post, I agree with your spirit, if not your specifics...

If I could, I'd keep a run of 1807-12 Half Eagles on hand. Or even just one.
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Welcome thq !!!

I like your logic here, but I dislike one of your choices: the Peace dollar. But that's what makes this place enjoyable - everybody has different tastes.

To me, these are pretty US coins:
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 Posted 04/21/2007  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you stay around thq
I think I am going to enjoy your sense of humour
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 Posted 04/21/2007  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wonderful first post. I think I like "curmudgeons"They sure make me smile!!
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I have to agree with your assessment of the Peace dollar. I have seen two that were absolutely gorgeous! It's a shame that most of them look like the other million or so that I've seen.
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I'd have to say the Standing Liberty quarter gets my vote. I don't collect them (yet), but they are one of the nicest designs the U.S. ever created.
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You had to post that 1818 again, didn't you, AuldFartte?
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quote:
You had to post that 1818 again, didn't you, AuldFartte?




C'mon Dave, you really wanted some eye candy this weekend, didn't ya?
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