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Is This 1652 Pine Tree Shilling Real?

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 Posted 02/06/2013  3:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add benbmw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all, I found a 1652 Pine Tree Shilling in a coin collection that my grandma gave me and I have had it for a while but haven't bothered to find out if it is fake or not. It doesn't have an 'H' in Massachusetts. as you can see in the pictures it appears the edges have been clipped or something and I know the weight should be about 4.5 grams but this one is 3.5 which may be due to the clipped edges.

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The coin is 26mm in diameter and it weighs 3.5-3.6 grams and as shown in the pictures its quite thin. Also this coin is not magnetic.

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If you have any other questions please let me know. Thanks!
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 Posted 02/06/2013  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benbmw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found this:http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_c...tree_n11.htm it may be a noe:11 ?
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 Posted 02/06/2013  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! I hope it is real. What a heirloom. Somebody should know here at CCF.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am no expert on colonials but the coin looks genuine to me. After doing a bit of quick research, it appears to match Noe-11. I agree clipping is probably the culprit for the low weight. The patina on this coin is wonderful. Quite a nice gift from your grandma! Keep it safe and enjoy!
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02/06/2013 7:27 pm
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 Posted 02/06/2013  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost forgot...

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 Posted 02/06/2013  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I'm on your side. I hope it's a good one. If this is the kind of stuff you got (assuming it's genuine) please do not hesitate to show us more.

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 Posted 02/06/2013  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy, that looks genuine. If fake, it's a darn good job.
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 Posted 02/07/2013  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benbmw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for all the help so far. I also hope it is real! a couple of years ago I asked a guy at my local coin shop about it(i did not bring it in to show him) and he told me that the real ones were thicker and heavier than what I was describing and chances were mine was a fake(i now find out that it is the opposite). So I took his word for it and didnt really research it until now. My grandma still has the(big) box of the rest of the coins which were mostly rolls of old pennies and half dollars, but I picked some out and kept them at my house this includes:


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 Posted 02/07/2013  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where's vermontensium! Did he lose Internet access or something?!
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 Posted 02/07/2013  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add capsnhawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweet! Thank you for the additional pics. Nice 1894 fiver!
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 Posted 02/07/2013  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benbmw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how would I be able to get it authenticated? and what would it be worth? thanks again for all your input
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 Posted 02/07/2013  10:44 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post the pine tree shilling in Classics and Vermontensium will find it faster.

* man would I love to go through your grandmas rolls of old pennies. Well, her whole collection. She has a good eye.
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 Posted 02/07/2013  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It isn't your typical obvious fake and I don't see anything that jumps out at me that says fake. The thinness of the planchet is a good sign, most fakes are too thick. I'd say odds are fairly good that you have a real one. I don't have the references need for attribution but if it can be confirmed to be a known variety that would also be a good sign.
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 Posted 02/07/2013  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like his call of a Noe-11 (Crosby 2a-A1), Conder.
Compare to some examples on Heritage:
http://coins.ha.com/c/search-result...Crosby+2a+a1
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Thanks for all your input. I am planing on getting it authenticated through an authorised dealer from PCGS on another forum, but I will let you all know how it goes and what the outcome is. If anyone has any questions just let me know.
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 Posted 02/07/2013  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another forum? There's another forum?
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